A new low? Jehovah’s Witness counts time by mailing grieving families via the obituaries
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A grieving father speaks to a reporter after being preached to via the obituaries

A grieving father speaks to a reporter after being preached to via the obituaries

A man who endured the death of his daughter recently received an unwelcome letter. Sent by one of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the letter expressed sympathy for his loss.

How did this Jehovah’s Witness learn about the man’s tragic loss? Apparently by scouring the obituary section of a Jacksonville, Florida newspaper.

According to a news report, a second letter was sent to the man’s church.

A news reporter from the local station reached out to Eva Robinson, the Jehovah’s Witness who sent the letter. Robinson explained that she couldn’t understand why the man was so upset.

This was not the first time she had scoured the obituaries. No other people had expressed disgust at receiving letters from her in their moment of grief, she added.

The man who received the letter explained to the reporter that, during times of grief, it is understandable that one would want to be surrounded by family and friends. However, he said it was not appropriate for a random stranger to send a grieving person a letter with an enclosed tract in an effort to proselytize (or ‘witness’) to you.

Robinson said she was sorry and meant no harm.

McKee asked Robinson why she would send a pamphlet to someone who belongs to a Presbyterian Church. To a non-Jehovah’s Witness, it seems to defy logic and serve no purpose. To one familiar with Jehovah’s Witness culture, it is a way to count hours toward field service.

Witnessing to people who are grieving and emotionally vulnerable is a cruel way to recruit potential converts. It reminds me of ambulance chasers, the phenomenon of lawyers following a road accident victim to hospital in the hopes of drumming up business.

Reading the obituary section for the sole purpose of evangelizing to grieving families to count time for a field service report is reprehensible, and a sad indictment of the extremes to which Witness indoctrination can lead.

 

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112 Responses to A new low? Jehovah’s Witness counts time by mailing grieving families via the obituaries

  1. vivian says:

    Basically the same practice/ concept is highlighted in the sophia video where the character gives her classmate literature after she learns she is sad about her grandmothers death.

  2. @LOL . YOU DO LOVE COMMENTING on this SITE & ASSOCIATING with APOSTATES ( 1Cor 15v.33) . You don’t live in the UK by any chance. I would like to meet up & have a CHAT???
    Before I became a JW I TRAINED in The MARTIAL ARTS & used to Practise HITTING BRICK WALLS with my FIST to TOUGHEN up the SKIN so when I Fought Opponents it could cause more DAMAGE !! My Conversion did make me a more GENTLER Person ! It’s ENLIGHTENING to Discuss how we came into the ‘TRUTH’ !
    Now you seem a SPORTY TYPE as you View this Website as a form of SPORT & as Fair Game for your TWISTED VIEWS. Perhaps we could MEET UP & have a JOVIAL DISCUSSION of our INTEREST in SPORTS??? … LOL … ARMAGEDDON could come Qucker than you Thought !! Perhaps you should FOLLOW ME Because I CAN FULFILL PROMISES … UNLIKE the 7 PYGMIES of BROOKLYN!!

    • @Lol . If you are a MAN then the above comment of mine applies and as I am now 60 years of age you might fancy your chances . If you are a WOMAN my Advice is GO to your Nearest PSYCHIATRIST & Get the NEEDED HELP You Obviously NEED !
      I am SORRY if I have OFFENDED anyone by my ANNOYED TONE BUT anyone who SUPPORTS an Organisation who PROTECTS CHILD ABUSERS & NOT REPORT THEM to the Relevant Authorities as proven last month at the Australian Royal Commission in more than 1006 cases just MAKES me SO ANGRY!! & @ LOL .. You are one of these People!!

    • JB Reezner says:

      Well folks, if we never hear from LOL again, I guess we’ll know what happened…

    • ArJay says:

      Seven PYGMIES of BROOKLYN?????
      Are you kidding me…..that is Hilarious!
      I havent laughed this hard in a week!
      one other note…….get off the Sauce……..lol

  3. Peter Jeuck says:

    The practice of going to obituaries to send consolation in Jehovah’s Witnesses probably goes way back to when they were called Bible Students, because the modern Bible Students have done this since I was a child more than 50 years ago. Dawn Bible Students for 70 + years has printed a booklet entitled “Hope” which was written for grieving family members. While Bible Students do not count hours or have time quotas to meet for public witnessing, witnessing is a part of the religion’s culture/heritage, and is a strongly encouraged activity. Bible Students, most often the women, comb the obituaries for the bereaved and send them Hope booklets for “consolation.” Other forms of witnessing includes door to door tracting, which isn’t done as much as it once was. Not so many now in the Bible Students do door to door because their numbers are dropping and because of ordinances against that form of solicitation . Bible Students are increasingly using the Internet to get their message and books to a large potential audience. When I was a child, 10-12 years old I participated in “tracting parties” organized by elders who were asking if ctive in indoctrinating us children. In doing this door to door tracting there was limited supervision and many times my tracting partner( also my age…12) would knock on doors not knowing what to expect. Sometimes the supervisor would drop us off in neighborhoods that weren’t exactly in the best areas of a town. Luckily nothing ever happened to me or my partner. But we were young naive and vulnerable, and looking back on it, it wasn’t the safest activity for us children to be involved in, especially without close supervision. But it was tradition! I’m not sure just how much Witnesses today know that their culture goes way back to the Bible Students movement and that many of the things they say and do have their beginnings with Russell. Going door to door I don’t think I ever interested or converted single person! My mother was one of the many sisters who would work the obituaries. They would find an obit and send a Hope booklet to the address listed there. Thinking back on it, it is indeed a presumptuous imposition. Bible Students would also flood funeral parlors with Hope booklets, sending thousands to each one for them to put out on table tops and other surfaces.

    • ArJay says:

      Most of us never got ONE UNBELIEVER to become a BELIEVER as it simply was a story too complicated and scary to even REPEAT! The elders were way out of control when I was a Witness and now every single one of them is GONE????? What did they figure out all at the same time?????? lol

  4. SR says:

    I can see myself having done this if I stayed in. These people who have lost someone are hurting and they don’t have to because it’s all going to be OK soon. If you really believe it seems like a compassionate thing to do. The problem is the brain washing stops a person from respecting boundaries and another’s values. In reality what they are doing is inappropriate and intrusive.

  5. John Baptist says:

    I consider this disgusting as well. To prey on the weak when their most vulernable. Perhaps she should visit the homeless and by her ACTIONS give them food shelter or otherwise. What the Heck is a track going to do for me? Bring my loved one back from the dead? Ridiculous and this just brings back a bad memory when my a Dad passed away 6 yrs ago. He requested no service and would just say go out and have a nice diner and celebrate my passing on. Well my Dad being a former elder and non involved anymore knew quite well what could happen at a service if he had one so he didn’t want one. But irregardless of his request my distraught mom was talked into having her daughters husband give a witness talk as they were active Hypochritical adherents. So after my dad’s former congregation found out they all came to the talk at the funeral home. All suit and dress robots piled in at the service with bibles in hand. I really wished somehow these folks could really see how brainwashed they are.
    The talk was given and standard recruiting format at the end. They always have a agenda to count time or preach in spite of some serious short comings on their part. My brother in out law stated my dad was depressed because he stopped going to meetings. Wow what a freaking lie. My Dad couldn’t be happier in that regard. Well after the talk was over my son who is named after me and dad got up there and set them all straight as to who my dad really was. I got up and explained that anyone with health issues like my dad would normally be depressed at times. He lost his left lower leg to Diabetes. You think that may be the reason why he may get down now and then? You have to be kidding me that people would use a funeral to first try and teach a lesson about not missing meetings then end it with recruitment speech. Happily my son destroyed them all and their show in about 5 min. And gave his Grandfather the reverence he so deserved for the person he was.
    It was unbelievable to witness such a show at my Dad’s non requested funeral.
    Those folks need a real life wake up call for sure.

    • JB Reezner says:

      What a terrible situation, John. I’m glad to hear you guys were able to right a few wrongs before the thing was over. JW funerals are strange affairs. The last one I went to was of an elder who was beloved to me and was actually one of the most well-known and loved people in our entire district. Well, the speaker talked about him for about 5-6 minutes, and then the usual recruitment spiel filled out the remaining 30 minutes or so. At the end of it, the wife of the deceased (also dear to me) said to me, “Wasn’t that a beautiful service”? Although internally bewildered, I nodded yes– but like all other JW funerals I’d ever been too, it was disappointing.

      Of course, I’d seen the elder who was being memorialized so inadequately do the same to many others himself. I know it’s just standard procedure, but a LITTLE more time devoted to the person who just DIED, and a little less time taking advantage of the captive-audience situation would be nice on those occasions.

      • anonymous says:

        Funeral talks were always an embarrassment to me when they started advertising for the meetings. Equally embarrassing was the Memorial talks for the Lord’s Evening meal when they always did the same thing at the end of the talk. I always felt embarrassed but never put two and two together. It was so obvious what they were doing and I always felt uneasy about it. Now I know why.

        • JB Reezner says:

          I so agree, anonymous. All the while, especially during funeral talks, you know that the non-JW’s in the audience would be willing to gnaw their legs off to get out of the snare they’d stepped into. A lot of yawns and clock checking.

          I remember another massively irritating thing that was commonly done here during funeral talks: The part with the brief couple of words about the deceased is over… Now, we’re at the G-to-R (Genesis to Revelation) explanation of why the audience should become JW’s. Okay– about every minute or two, after the speaker makes some generic point, he say’s “That’s what Bob believed”, “That’s what Bob used to teach people”, “Learning that bit of truth was a high point in Bob’s life”. Gaaaaa! It was such a cheap, unconvincing way to try to make it feel like it was still part of the memorial for the deceased.

          No, goofy funeral talks weren’t enough to make me question the religion. But, they could be painful experiences (for more reasons than just the loss of someone you cared about).

    • ArJay says:

      The Organization preyed on the “Poorest and Downtrodden of Neighborhoods” to witness in…..as many there were looking for “Something/Anything” to give them some hope! Sad but True!

  6. Shanti says:

    LOL, You don’t know that he didn’t try to contact her but NOT contacting her would have been the smarter choice. If you think someone is a bit “off” it is best to have help in responding and not approach them on your own. Maybe he knows that any contact w/ this person, good or bad, would be counted as encouragement on their part.

    No matter how genuine you think this is from the witness point of view it is in reality a disturbing, macabre, bottom feeding practice where the targets feel an immense invasion of privacy from a complete stranger, if not strange person.

    I felt completely violated, vulnerable and intimidated when approached by JW’s at the gas station who were not getting gas but just drove in and approached me. Creepy?

    If you can not feel compassion for the the mourning families burying loved ones you must also look forward to telemarketers and spam emails. Wonder why the JW’s haven’t thought of putting banners on cars and driving past the graveside service. I think I have just given their marketing dept. some new ideas.

    I have a short Russian surname and I have been receiving mail from JW’s in a city about 125 miles away. All the communication is in the Russian language. I certainly feel like I’m being stalked. How much do they know about me? Where did they get my name? How do they know I have Russian background? Do they know my grandfather was from Moscow? What registration rolls are they sifting through for this info. Creepy indeed.

    What they program you to think as acceptable is part of cult tactics, any generic cult. Nothing they do is “normal” by society standards. Look up the definition of a cult and then tell us if you can justify there was any human compassion involved in this woman “cold calling” on a family in distress. She was pedaling her wares as she was expected to do. It was no different if she had been trying to sell burial plots, coffins or life insurance to the rest of the family. Would that have been acceptable? Many JW’s have boundary issues and do not recognize it. That is part of of the pathology, the nature of the disease.

    Those of you who still feel this is a kind and thoughtful practice of the witnesses need to have that brainwashing chip surgically removed from your brain and it’s quite evident I did not experience a softer side of the jw’s as some of you. To this day I am prone to anxiety attacks if I see or hear anything JW.

    Sorry if I’m echoing what others have said. Haven’t had time to read all the comments.
    While I’m here wanted to say hello to old friends here. Many of you I wish I could meet in person. I have become pen pals w/ someone on this forum who reached out to me. She has become very dear to me as our crazy JW lives have been mirrored in many ways. It is so good for the heart to have someone understand your own personal level of damage. Unfortunately we live on different continents.

  7. MamaJane says:

    I remember just putting in a number to turn in time. I rarely went out in serviece and when I did, I made sure I was in the van of lazies that would hand out a tract at McDonald’s driv-thru and go park and just count the hours away. I wrote a few of those letters too…. I regret my entire experience with jw’s.

  8. ScotWm says:

    It’s true. Witnesses send letters of sorrow along with brochures, to those who have lost loved ones, in the hope of attracting new members into the Watchtower cult.

    I can’t help but wonder what will be next in the Watchtower’s quest for ever-increasing field service hours. The Governing Body is already taking advantage of today’s technology by using televangelism to promote their JW dot ORG brand. Although telephone witnessing has been in use for many years, it can now be fully exploited with today’s technology:

    “Religious organizations, leaders and followers can now use the power of voice broadcasting to send out hundreds to hundreds of thousands of church robocalls, spreading their beliefs in an extremely efficient manner.” When your phone rings you could hear:

    “Hi, this is Rachel calling from the Watchtower headquarters of Jehovah’s Witnesses. There’s no problem with your eternal salvation at this time. However, because the Great Tribulation is close at hand, your life may be in danger. Press 1 on your touch-tone phone to be connected to a live witness who will guide you to safety.”

    Even if 100 thousand victims of the robocalls listen to only the first 5 seconds of the sales pitch, there would still be nearly 140 hours of preaching time involved. A million calls would generate 1,400 hours and 10 million calls would generate 14,000 hours.

    The fact that millions of robocalls are made each day indicates that some suckers actually press 1 and talk to a live person. This time would also be added to the total. The beauty of this scheme is that the same people can be called over and over and over again, thus increasing the total hours even more.

    https://churchcalling.wordpress.com/tag/church-robocalls/

    • Ejecting to Sanity says:

      Actually, the current m.o. is to count Every Minute from the moment you sit down to make your calls until you put the phone down. Ex.. 3 hours (maybe dialed 10 calls because you take turns with the 4 other sisters that came to your house for service, coffee and snacks. Might have had 2 hang-ups, 6 no answers, and 2 10 second conversations. TOTAL TIME : 3 HOURS)
      Do not deduct time for bathroom breaks or gossip.
      Just the truth.
      Letter writing is even worse. We attended one such service day and were appalled as even each envelope was stuffed and sealed in a ‘speedy 3 mi utes’. I am not kidding or exaggerating.

  9. questionall451 says:

    This reminds me of the time when Whitney Heichel was murdered by a fellow Witness in Oregon. When the community came to express their condolences at the young girls services the congregation members were handing out literature to the public to “help them with their grieving”. How tacky can you get? Taking advantage of a young woman’s tragic murder to put in a plug for the borg?

  10. label licker says:

    The same thing happened in Elmira, On. This lame brain elder and his bleach blonde uneducated wife who never wants to go door to door saw on the news a murder that took place a few years ago. The murderer had murdered his wife and they had two children who were handed over to the grandparents. He bragged about how he went and witnessed to the family the day after the murder which made me sick. It was a murder of a mother of two and this dimwit tries to witness to the grandparents. Needless to say they told them they didn’t have time for them.
    This is the same elder who tried to arrange a judicial meeting with me on the phone and in the process I had an incoming phonecall which I had to put him on hold. Here it was a gal that I had studied with and she had hung herself. You can imagine the state I was in and when I had returned to the other line to tell him now wasn’t the time, he didn’t care but wanted to know when it was a good time to set up a date for my judicial meeting. These lame brains never did disfellowship me since I had recorded six hours of my judicial meeting and they knew they were dead ducks in the eyes of the media if I went public.
    It’s an evil evil cult!

  11. Jimbo says:

    My thoughts too. By the looks of the man I would say he is a right wing republican and is a NRA member. How did he get a reporter to cover that is beyond me. Especially in Jacksonville, Florida’s Detroit.

  12. Catalina says:

    Yesterday my sister said to me she is just like a catholic in the sense that she was born one of Jehovah’s Witnesses so she will die as one of Jehovah’s Witnesses just like some catholics. She upset me and shook me up so bad because she told me I’m dead to her. I married my boyfriend and he is catholic. She hurt my feelings. It was as if my mind became preoccupied so I forgot to remove my ear plugs from my ears after work. It was as if my mind was preoccupied because she upset me. She is rejecting me and my husband. I drove through the McDonalds drive thru after work with my earplugs still in my ears. I said loudly, “I want a cheese burger and a medium mocha frappe” I drove up the the first window and the cashier guy said “Miss, do you realize you have your ear plugs in your ears?” I said “no” and I pulled on the blue strings and pulled the ear plugs out of my ears. JWs don’t care about people. They count time but not because they care about people.

    • anonymous says:

      @Catalina, I don’t think it’s just about counting time and that they don’t care about people. I know way too many people who really take their “job” seriously when it comes to preaching and teaching because they really do believe in Armageddon and they are doing everything they can to what they think is to save the world of mankind from being destroyed and they really think that what they are telling people is “good news”. I know that was my attitude. I felt under the gun to go in service even though I dreaded having to go out but I did it anyway. I’d much have preferred to stay in bed on Saturday morning than to get up and go in service but I felt guilty if I didn’t do it.

      Counting time is when you read the story of Anthony Morris the third when he moved from wherever he was, he left magazines at every place he stopped and I have heard of Witnesses doing that so they can count their time during the trip. I even remember the Kingdom Ministry telling us to do that when we went to assemblies so we could count time. Witnesses volunteer at Kingdom Hall builds and they probably count their time when they are at Bethel or at least they should be able to since it’s all volunteer labor. They will do anything they can to absolve their guilty conscience. The most depressed people are the Witnesses because they are made to feel guilty, no matter how many hours they get in service.

      One of the latest jwbroadcasting shows was a regular pioneer sister who was suicidal because she didn’t think she was going enough so she signed up for Gilead. I know for a fact that Witnesses don’t go in service because they enjoy bothering people. It is far more complicated than that.

      • JB Reezner says:

        Well, anonymous and Catalina, because you both asked for my opinion, here’s the way I see it… When all is said and done, Jehovah’s Witnesses are made up of a cross-section of humanity like most other religions. It gets tricky because they all share the same cultish thinking, which upon honest examination, is filled with many profoundly arrogant and cruel beliefs.

        So, depending on your perspective, it can sometimes look like good people are evil, or evil people are good. And, depending upon the specific JW in question, either one of those things could be true. So it’s not really accurate to use blanket statements like “JW’s are good”, or “JW’s are bad”.

        Some of the people I love most in this world are JW’s who honestly do care about helping people. On the other hand, some of the people that I despise the most are JW’s who seem to have let the cult’s belief system make them even more repugnant than they perhaps would’ve been had they never become JW’s.

        If any of the above is right, then I know you both already know it. It just seemed like maybe a good enough thought to put down in a comment. I don’t think I’m a jeenyuss or anything. 🙂

        Catalina, your story is a heart-breaker. I hope that somehow the seismic shakeups taking place with more and more frequency in the Org will somehow lead to an epiphany for your sister that you will both benefit from.

      • Ejecting to Sanity says:

        Yes, there are some that truly want to preach out of love , but sadly, we have many more local ones who publicly state that they hope no one is home. Perfectly acceptable. We were with a pioneer couple heading out to a rural territory in a car group, and the husband, a m.s., said out loud how they love to check out those territories because there are many miles between houses and they’re usually not home. “I hate talking at the door” was one of his comments. My husband and I were appalled by the whole day and did not go out with them again. We no longer go out, we’re fading quickly. I do some informal ‘bible discussion’ with people I am meeting and it’s so refreshing.
        Our circuit looks healthy, but most make no pretense about the pretense…(as long as the comments at the hall r right in line ..)

  13. Nemorino says:

    Ah, such comfort to the grieving… disabusing mourners of their cherished notion that their dear loved one is in heaven, blissfully reunited with all their relatives and friends, but instead stone-cold dead and under the ground, their death-deafened ears await a call back to life.

  14. Nemorino says:

    Ah, such comfort to the grieving… disabusing mourners of their cherished notion that their dear loved one is in heaven, blissfully reunited with all their relatives and friends, but instead stone-cold dead and under the ground, their death-deafened ears await a call back to life.

    • JB Reezner says:

      What a perfect way of stating the essence of the issue, Nemorino. Even a well-meaning JW should consider the immense counter-productive potential of deeply offending a mourner (and possibly their family and friends) with an opportunistic attempt to challenge their belief system while in the throes of despair, even with good intentions and motives. But you said it much better.

  15. Winston Smith says:

    If you read Combating Cult Mind Control by Steve Hassan, you will find that people are most vulnerable to cult recruitment when they have gone through a life-changing event like the loss of a loved one.

    I am sure Eva Robinson is not necessarily thinking of this tactic when sending her letters, rather she is acting in response to encouragement from the Organization.

    There is such a push for getting your hours each month, that people forget about the need to display Christian love and kindness. The push is for sacrifice instead of mercy. Opposite from what the scriptures teach – Matt 9:13.

  16. Empathyforthegrieving says:

    Actually, this was loving of the woman to try to bring comfort and hope from the Bible to a stranger!! Who else would take the time and expense to do this?
    I have attended the funerals of total strangers and I have also sent cards to total strangers. Maybe we do this because we hope someone would take such caring measures ourselves if tragedy were to strike.
    Go easy on this lady..she was only trying to be caring.

    • LadyLuck says:

      There are many different takes on Christianity (Presbyterian, Baptist, Methodist, Catholic, Orthodox, etc,)

      It’s actually very presumptuous to think that your personal beliefs (no matter how you choose to worship) are what someone else needs for comfort.

  17. Barb Moor says:

    Actually the letter writing to the bereaved doesn’t bug me that much…some little old lady felt like she was doing something valuable (you have to remember SHE believes it) to comfort someone. When a family member dies (of any faith), this sort of thing happens a great deal by corporations AND other churches. You’d be surprised at the money grubbers who come out. We had tons of mail come with a family death that was far more offensive (most asking for money to ensure his salvation).These people who lost their daughter (my heart goes out to them) could have simply tossed out the tract with the Neptune Society brochure. It seems like a slow-news-day article and petty on the part of the family.

    What DOES get to me, and is far more egregious and not mentioned here, are those JW’s would spend time at CEMETERIES! Literally, going from bereaved to bereaved offering tracts and “comfort”. THAT would be a newsworthy story and one I’ve seen too many times to report. Can you imagine sitting there (many bring a lawnchair) with your dead loved one and some Joe Blow in a suit comes to tell you it’s going to be better soon and that they WILL see their loved ones again? Joe Blow stands around, spouting scriptures, during your sacred time alone? The news organization that did this story should look into that. That’s a complete exploitation of pain and suffering with no good intentions involved: just racking up the time until Starbucks or Tim Hortons.

  18. roberiy says:

    I think this is not reheprensible! it is normal!

  19. Wip it says:

    My Dear Dad died a few years ago, as he was a non witness, we had a wake, which was great, & i hate the JW funeral (public talk to entrapped audience), leading up to my Mum’s death, she wanted a proper service & we wanted another wake, Elders got involved and forced the issue, anyway that was that, in Mum’s final months when we entered palliative care, i called the elder who cares for the sick & brought him up to speed, as you can imagine we had had a very bad day, he asked me if i was going to be at the meeting that nite & i said no, he barked at me like some deranged school teacher for the 1960’s, absolutely no love, i have received more care from non JW people.This same elder said about my non witness family, including mum’s sister that they have no hope, they are disgusting, i havnt spoken to that man in other 6 months, not to mention he doesnt try to either, maybe its the beard that scares them away.

  20. Badger says:

    Since when did they start sending letters without someone proof reading them?? It clearly says ‘sorry about your lost’. We would spend so much time writing long letters with perfect hand writing but if one word was wrong we had to start again, they must really be slipping

  21. Sharon Lee Murray says:

    This is totally disgusting! They will speak to strangers about losing loved ones…while continuing to shun those who find out how hypocritical this cult truly is when the shunned lose their loved ones! The hypocrisy this demonic cult lowers itself to is INHUMAN! Who do they think they are! Leave those grieving alone! You want to do some good, read a REAL bible! So TOTALLY DISGUSTING! Shame on her and every jw that swoops in like vultures for numbers when this happens to NORMAL people! SHAMEFUL!

  22. Linda Pruitt says:

    I lost a daughter to a car accident, and anyone that was willing to show me empathy and love I willingly excepted, because I felt so horrible. I would have much rather had 100 brochures from 100 witnesses about what happens when you die, instead of all the lies other people told me like, oh God needed an angel in heaven, it was God’s will that she died, What did you do to get such bad karma, on an onwith ugly lies that hurt deep. I am a Jehovah’s Witness now and I write to grieving parents that have lost children in death and I send them that beautiful brochure about the true hope of the resurrection and I do it because I want them to know the truth about Jehovah God and his son Jesus not just to count time, who cares, we just keep track of it because Jehovah is an organize God and he directs us out of encouragement to have goals. We don’t get any badges or metals or money for the time spent in the ministry we do it from our own pocketbook and from our own time that we could be doing personal hobbies or anything else that we wish. So shame on you dissing on people that try to tell greiving people the truth about the beautiful paradise and that they will see their loved ones again

  23. Trevis says:

    What always amazes me is the amount of time, effort and energy some people put into complaining about Jehovah’s Witnesses, Catholic’s, any other religion.

    Why not put that same time, effort and energy into promoting their own religion or just promoting love, peace and unity.

    • Caroline says:

      Trevis, I am 69 years old and I also promoted the JW religion for almost my whole life so I know of what I am speaking about here.

      All those years, I never thought that I belonged to a religion that would tell out and out lies to me. I believed everything the Watchtower printed in the literature and I never blamed anything bad on Jehovah but the imperfections of people in the religion.

      Then about two years ago, I stumbled on an article in Wikipedia about Jehovah’s Witnesses and found out that the JW’s had joined in with the United Nations from 1992 to 2002 and unjoined when it got found out and put in a newspaper, that they had joined the U.N. all those years.

      I couldn’t believe that they had joined the U.N. and so I had to find out if it was true or not and I found jwfacts and other websites and found out that it was all true and could be proved by even writing to the United Nations.

      It was such a shocker for me that they joined up with the beast and then I found out that Jerusalem wasn’t destroyed in 607 B.C.E. but 586/587 B.C.E. and that could be proved and it’s even in my own enclyclopedias and the Society had known about that fact since the 1980’s if not even before that.

      Then I found out that Carl Olof Jonsson had written to the Society about his findings about 586/587 in the early 1980’s to prove that the Society was wrong about 607 and the Society told him that he couldn’t tell anybody about it and if he told anybody about it that he would be expelled and that is what they did to him because he did tell others.

      Then I found out that Carol Olof Jonsson had written a book called “Gentile Times Reconsidered” and I sent for that book and read it. In that book, Mr. Jonsson outlines seventeen separate ways that Jerusalem could not have been destroyed in 607 but it was 586/587 B.C.E. when it was destroyed. Then I knew for sure that the Society was covering up the true facts so that they could save face because they were so wrong about 1914 and so on. They had to lie about 607 or the religion would crumble like a house of cards. That religion is based on lies. They throw in some scriptures to make it seem like the truth but any lie they say to keep it going tells me it’s not the truth.

      Any true God would not want a religion in his name that would promote lies to keep it’s members in and to trick them into coming into the religion and then kick them out if they question that religion to make sure they aren’t telling lies and that is what happens to anybody who questions it, once they are baptized.

      Any religion that covers up the truth can’t be the truth and so I realized that I had wasted the one and only life that I will ever have on a lie. That is why so many people are spending their time on web sites like this and making videos because they don’t want the same thing to happen to anybody else and they also lose their lives on lies.

      The Society lies about almost everything. They are not directed by Holy Spirit. They are a lying, thieving, controlling religion that is taking advantage of innocent people and hiding thousands and thousands of pedophiles and killing men, women and children with their blood policy and destroying countless thousands of lives through their unscriptural shunning policy when it comes to anybody spilling the beans about their sordid history and lies.

      That is why we spend so much time here. The people who take the time to warn others about this cult are to be commended and thanked. Some day you will see the real truth about the truth and hopefully you will join in the fight.

  24. Jimmie Shannon says:

    I’m sure within the letter and the panthlet there were comforting scriptures for anyone who has lossed loved ones in death. One thing most religions have in common is the bible, which is God’s mouth piece. The bibles says the good news about God’s kingdom would reach all men.(Matthew 24:14) When Jesus was on earth he did not wait for people to contact him especially ones broken in spirit. He saught them out by going as quoted from the bible “house to house, city to city village to village.” Who better to share comforting scriptures about what God has in store for mankind and the promise given in his word the bible in regards to seeing our dead loved ones again than to someone who just lost a loved one. Finding these ones through the obituary is more like taking anititve like Jesus did to comfort those in need and remind them of God’s promised even to strangers. Being Christ like should not be minimized to say someone is ” just getting time.” These are people that has dedicated there entire life to do the will of God, to preach of his kingdom and to sanctfy his holy name ( Jehovah) Psalms 83:18.