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It appears that the public invite for the 2016 Worldwide Convention of Jehovah’s Witnesses has been leaked!

It is of course hard to confirm at this time if the images that first appeared on Jehovahs-Witness.com are genuine, but they certainly have the look and formatting of previous convention invites, and the art style is certainly that of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society.

We will of course keep a close eye on this story for more information, and will update this post to confirm or debunk the veracity of the leak as soon as we get the required information.

If this leak IS real, however, it reveals a choice of topic for the convention that is rather puzzling. Remember, this invite is not designed for those who are already Jehovah’s Witnesses. This is an invite designed to be given to members of the general public.

Such an invite needs to convince people who may be hostile, skeptical, or just indifferent to Jehovah’s Witnesses to take time out of their busy lives and make a journey to a crowded, noisy convention centre to listen to 3 days of programming. Thus such an invite needs to promise discussion topics appealing to the public. It needs to be appealing, enticing.

So what is the chosen topic? The paradise Earth? The resurrection? Love and brotherhood? Perhaps something exciting like biblical prophecy that we are seeing fulfilled right now on CNN and the BBC!

Nope.

The topic is Loyalty to God.

Remain Loyal To Jehovah!

unnamed-2The tract proclaims the theme of the 2016 Convention to be “Remain Loyal to Jehovah.” According to the tract the highlights of the convention will be:

  • Friday: How Jesus set the example of loyalty
  • Saturday: How the example of Job teaches us to be loyal despite intense suffering
  • Sunday: How King Hezekiah remained loyal to God whilst besieged by enemies

Ummm…

…it’s not exactly eternal life with pandas and ice-cream, is it?

It’s hard to see how this invite will appeal to the general public. If they have their own religion, they won’t have much interest in being loyal to the Witness God. If they are an atheist they won’t see the point in being loyal to a deity that they don’t believe exists. And if they are simply indifferent or have not thought much about religion, it’s hardly the most gripping of topics to stir their interest.

Two possibilities exist as far as I can see:

Firstly, it’s possible that this is simply a very poorly thought-out invite that fails to consider its audience; either due to a genuine lack of ability in marketing on the part of those who created it, or because those who created it have lost perspective on the fact that those who do not believe in Watchtower’s version of Jehovah will have little interest in learning loyalty to him or the Governing Body.

The second, and far more interesting possibility is that this invite and this convention isn’t really concerned with bringing in new Witnesses at all.

Rather, it is entirely about frantically trying to hold on to the Witnesses that Watchtower already has.

Jehovah’s Witnesses: A religion in crisis?

de-rooyIt has been a brutal few years for Watchtower. We’ve seen sweeping reductions in their published literature; painful lay-offs from their full time servants; bethel services slashed and bethel families downsized; repeated calls from Watchtower’s Governing Body for more donations and admissions that they are running low on funds.

We’ve seen appalling revelations over Watchtower’s mishandling of child abuse within it’s ranks making world headlines, and causing members of the Governing Body to be dragged before the courts to give less than impressive testimony, or flee from the courts altogether. And it’s clear that worse is still to come for Watchtower in this area.

We’ve seen that the key New Light teaching of the “overlapping generations” is struggling to take hold in the faith of many Witnesses, if the repeated attempts at explanation from Watchtower are anything to go by. The promised new world is slipping into the distance, it would seem, and leaving more and more Witnesses with questions that Watchtower seems unable to answer, problems exacerbated by the increasingly eccentric behaviour of the Governing Body.

And it would seem that all of these problems are taking their toll.

The 2015 yearbook showed that world wide growth in their membership was 1.5 percent. Not that great, but if you then factor in that worldwide population growth for that year was 1.18 percent we see that growth has essentially stopped. And when one looks at the figures in detail, and compares for example, the number baptised with the overall growth it becomes clear that Watchtower is losing both funds and members at an alarming rate.

It’s possible therefore that this convention is a direct response to all of the above, and that Watchtower’s leadership is focusing this convention not on the public, but on the Witnesses themselves. Yet if this indeed what is going on behind the scenes, the Governing Body might find that simply lecturing their followers about loyalty might not be a good long term fix. Why?

Because loyalty cannot be commanded.

It has to be earned.

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82 thoughts on “Watchtower News Bulletin: Invitation and Theme for 2016 District Convention Leaked!

  • March 11, 2016 at 5:40 pm
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    Thanks once again. You have great insight and wisdom to know the difference. Good job

    • March 11, 2016 at 5:51 pm
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      Even when I was dedicated JW I never really liked giving up my 3-4 day weekend and having to sit through hours of monologue and repeated teachings etc. The they would have brothers on the stage who I knew personally were living double lives and giving them parts as examples etc. My wife and I would look at people sleeping during the talks and jokingly sau,”do you think he is enjoying the Convention”?

      • March 12, 2016 at 11:01 pm
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        I slept a lot also. Because I had heard all this before.So why stay awake to listen to the same old same old.? All this sleeping then having that long drive back home. Kids acting up- They were bored also. They even asked “daddy why do we have to do this? I had no answer to give them. Today I have to tell my kids that I was wrong to put them through all this and having already took Christmas, birthdays, sports,and all the other stuff I took from them. I am ashamed of what I was involved in.

      • August 9, 2016 at 10:52 am
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        What made you leave, may I ask?

  • March 11, 2016 at 5:50 pm
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    If this is true, I think this would more likely be the reason.

    “Rather, it is entirely about frantically trying to hold on to the Witnesses that Watchtower already has.”

  • March 11, 2016 at 5:53 pm
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    Watchtower is losing both funds and members at an alarming rate because of KARMA, what goes around comes back around and there’s a scripture that proves it…..It comes back upon your own heads according to what you all put out through your mind control manipulations and driven money hungry begging, dividing families, murdering people via lack of blood transfusions, so on and so on….right back at you, your tower has been crashing for a long time through all your lies and sexual abuse cover ups and because us exjws are exposing all your crooked ways, along with your false tonuge. We are enjoying every moment of your crib being on fire, watching and encouraging it to burn to complete ashes…..crash and burn baby!

    • March 12, 2016 at 11:14 pm
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      Helen I feel the same way I do- I have no feelings for that watchtower cult at all. Let them fall and let the fall hurt. They think they are so righteous and everybody is below them. Kool ade could be down the road.One never knows does he? A desperate man will do desperate things.And knowing the people that follow these men I think out of 8 million zombies that at least 2 million would drink kool ade. They would use the excuse that sataan has declared war on the watchtower and its people. It wont work. Child molestation is something that people hate. And they have gotten away with it for so long.But all things do come to an end- I would say that they hate x witness more than they hate satan.The apostates are the ones being persecuted. Its not the zombies that are being persecuted but it is us x jws.Thos mentally diseased 8 old bent over men called governing body is the one to cause all this hate,If you think that the zombies and the Brooklyn crew don’t hate yo then you live in another world.

  • March 11, 2016 at 6:16 pm
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    They could turn it around if they would drop the shunning, drop the blood nonsense, drop the constant micromanagement, change their child abuse polices, and use an accurate Bible. If members were allowed to live normally, to enjoy their families and holidays, instead of slaving to earn their salvation with endless works, it would still appeal to certain people.

    They set up an elitist, hermetically sealed community and that worked, before the internet, to keep people in ignorance; however the playing field has been leveled and survival will not depend on the old model of a doomsday hook, nor on exclusivity. Exposure has shown how harmful this group truly is and the only way they will survive is to lose the extremism and mainstream.

    • March 11, 2016 at 7:38 pm
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      I agree but Watchtower have tied themselves in a knot. They can’t get rid of the two witness rule or the no blood policy for if they did, they would be sued from ex-jw’s all over the world who’ve lost loved ones or by abuse victims. This is why Jackson in the ARC was so eagre to say that countries would be doing them a favour if they would demand by law that all cases are reported. It is also why they have tried to weaken their position by allowing blood fractions. Time will only tell on the blood issue but my guess is they will weaken the policy of no blood but over a long period of time to stop a backlash coming all at once. I hate Watchtower. They have blood on their hands. How do they sleep at night.

      • March 11, 2016 at 9:41 pm
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        “This is why Jackson in the ARC was so eagre to say that countries would be doing them a favour if they would demand by law that all cases are reported.”

        This ^ will give them the excuse they desire so much. “Well you see friends we are happy to comply with ceasar when there is no conflict with God’s law. There is nothing more we can do report to the authorities”.

        They would get to keep their credibility and distance themselves from negative reporting. Slimey cowards.

        • May 19, 2016 at 7:50 am
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          They are really master of deception. I don’t know if the Watchtower intentionally do it or not.
          It is them who knows it.

          • June 12, 2016 at 10:07 am
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            It is plainly obvious that you are on the outside looking in.
            Maybe there are those who have a genuine love for God who see the wisdom in the topics of the talks. As witnesses we are not in it for ourselves we are in it because we love God and are truly grateful for his Kindness that we don’t deserve.
            Yes loyalty was what Jesus encouraged us to be and anyone seeking to be a true Christian will recognise this and THEY WILL enjoy the program.
            It’s an invite to such ones and those who don’t have any interest in such things don’t need to bother.
            Whoever you are writing this article you are clearly biased against the witnesses. You are entitled to your opinion but that’s ALL it is. Why dont you let people discover the facts for themselves – then THEY can decide their own opinions on matters without being influenced by those that are flawed by someone who is clearly embittered against the JWS.

    • March 12, 2016 at 6:12 am
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      M. Rhodes. You are possibly right they could turn themselves around but I doubt they will. It would cause more Havoc in the ORG than already exists.

      They could still be an END TIMES religion but stop all this nonsense and false predictions on the end of the world etc. They could say yes, the end is coming someday but nobody knows when but we just need to be ready for it when it happens and stay awake spiritually etc. which is what the Bible actually says. The problem is the WT has so many Whacko Ideas tied to their teachings from Holidays to Beards to school participation to College education to playing sports to dress codes to shunning to Voting to Jury duty to dating to blood transfusions to toasting to Reading the Bible on your own to their viewpoint on other beliefs that it is virtually impossible for them to change bc if they did then they would no longer be the JW religion. If they did this they would have to inculcate these things slowly over the years little by little bc the rank and file could not take it all at once.

      You remember the Worldwide Church of God and Ted Armstrong who died in the late 80’s? They were similar tot he Wt in many ways especially with the control they kept over their members. They also felt they were the ONLY true religion and shunned people and were also an “END of the World” religion just like the JW’s as well. After he died they did change their teachings and started to celebrate Holidays and changed the doctrine he taught for decades and it caused HUGE split in their religion. Some formed other groups and some stayed loyal to his teachings and today the Official World Wide Church is not what it used to be. It is completely
      different. I think the same would happen with the WT if they ever did make hose changes plus they are to Controlling to do that I believe. Personally I think the entire WT will have to come down for people to realize they have been duked.

      • March 12, 2016 at 8:46 am
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        I agree. It is going to take something cataclysmic – oh big word this time in the morning. Most will continue to ignore what is put in front of them as ‘Apostate Propaganda’. ‘Satan attacking the org.’ ‘Lies’. However, using one of their own analogies, a steady drip of water can erode even the hardest of rock faces until a fissure appears and a rock face crumbles. Drip, drip, drip.

        • March 12, 2016 at 9:30 am
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          Tara is there panda in propaganda? ruthlee

          • March 14, 2016 at 6:54 am
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            lol you will have to run that one by me Ruthlee. I is a bit fik.

      • March 14, 2016 at 11:14 am
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        Isaac Newton [the, Isaac Newton]
        Calculated it would not come until 2060 or thereabouts.
        He was a devout believer anti-trinitarian.

    • March 12, 2016 at 11:39 am
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      LOl, that’s a long line of if’s…..they’d essentially become…gasp…Christian

    • March 13, 2016 at 5:19 pm
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      If they dropped the shunning rules…I think more would leave than join….

      • March 14, 2016 at 8:30 am
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        Yes, I believe the shunning is a very effective control mechanism that keeps many in, despite not believing anymore. The thought of losing your entire family and community, and to be ostracized as persona non grata, is terrifying enough for many as to keep them from trying to leave. Where would they go? And to whom do they go to when they need help or guidance? If they only associate with JWs, they have nobody. You have to be very strong and determined to make it on your own while totally alone and unprepared. Some leave but go back because they can’t stand not having contact with their family and friends. Humans are meant to be with each other, especially with our family. It’s just not natural to be ostracized like the JWs do to their own flesh and blood. Shunning is extremely hateful and damaging to the shunned.

        It terrified me to leave, knowing I would be shunned. It was very emotionally devastating at first. I was quite alone and unprepared for the real world, with zero support from my mother who called me a whore as I left her home and said if I came crawling back, she’d spit on me. Lovely words to hear from your own mother but that’s what the cult does to many – their first and foremost “love” is for the real estate & publishing company, and if you’re not with them on that, you may as well be dead. I remember how shocked I felt when JWs would see me somewhere and they’d look away or cross the street to avoid me. That hurts! I can’t imagine how awful it would be if you lived in a small community and had to encounter that on a regular basis.

        I made it great, out in the big, bad world, creating a new community of friends without conditions. I have a civil relationship now with my mother, the only JW in my family – as long as we don’t talk about the cult. I’m luckier than most because many, especially those born-in, have everybody in the cult, so they would be truly alone and without any support if they left.

        • March 14, 2016 at 5:22 pm
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          Gulfcoaster,

          Hence why Angus Stewart said to the WT Lawyer of Australia at the ARC…”it is a captive organisation”.

    • August 19, 2016 at 3:24 pm
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      I agree whole heartedly. The unfortunate thing is that due to all of the deaths because of the watchtower promoting no blood the organisation would have some huge law suits on their hands if they were to drop that policy and I believe allot of their own dedicated, loyal servants would turn on them. It wouldn’t matter how rock solid a persons faith is, imagine the hurt parents for example, would experience if those policies were taken away but they lost a child in death in the past for strictly adhering to it. There would be JW uproars all over the globe. But I for one am just as offended about the change of blood beliefs in recent times considering the extreme stance that has been taken in the past by JWs on this issue.

  • March 11, 2016 at 7:09 pm
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    They do command loyalty…with threats of retribution if they dont get it. It has to be cajoled, bribed, extorted from the masses. That’s the only way they’ll get it any more.

  • March 11, 2016 at 10:03 pm
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    Remain Loyal To Jehovah!
    Translation: Remain Loyal To The Watchtower! The Governing Body must have noticed that they no longer need those 14,000 new Kingdom Halls that Stephen Lett mentioned when he was begging for more money.

    This assembly theme ties in well with Governing Body member Mark Sanderson’s “Return to Jehovah” talk from a recent JW Broadcasting episode. Once again, the translation is: “Return to the Watchtower.”

    Those leaving the Watchtower are not just marginal publishers who are “spiritually weak.” Elders and ministerial servants are also leaving in greater numbers. Once congregations lose their leaders, the rest of the members will leave with them.

  • March 11, 2016 at 10:26 pm
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    Awesome! Maybe this one will be enough to get my Mother mad so as to let herself be..”.enlightened”as to what is going on in the JW.org! Up til now she refuses to use it to get informed and see what all she can learn about the goings on with her own mobile device…in denial. She like many other older sisters will spend many hrs in the distribution of these invites…complaining as they go…Why do we have to deliver these to people who care less about going, when those of us who are Witnesses have a hell of a time getting there and sitting thru that same old stuff! And did you see how they paved the parking lot, and look at those chrome urinals…and those puffy couches in the hall ways! Wish I had one of them! Hell I worked and at 75 I am still driving school bus, so those suckers can have chrome urinals and puffy couches when I send in my ten $ they made us agree to donate a certain amount, never mind all the other things you have to give $ for!!!! I just smile….and she in small country place, has not seen all the finery…of Babble on the GRT. Be alot if swearing going on if she did!!! In time…I love it!!!! I would like to see any of those on Govn Body, in their…baggy twisted slacks, drawed right up flingin firewood, (oh yeh cuz “the end” was here long ago so no need to install electric) You donate! My Father and brothers all worked hard in logging business, my one brother killed as a faller, all on acct of pushin to limits so as to…be approved for…twisted slax! I say…put these in hi places to do some real work! May have to try spanx, more give than poly slax, twisted and drawed up. Let them sweat a tad…work for their donations! Good job…weeky…leaky!

    • March 12, 2016 at 8:49 am
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      Lol this made me chuckle over my morning coffee Sharon.

  • March 12, 2016 at 12:05 am
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    Ha! Brilliant. If this is genuine (and it certainly looks it) it shows just how desperate they are getting . I would consider my life complete to see this organisation brought to its knees in my lifetime. I just want to see them held to account and exposed for what they are. This “remain loyal to Jehovah” is nonsense. It’s loyalty to the organisation they are really demanding, they consider the two interchangeable. In other words, they are putting themselves in Jehovah’s place, setting themselves up as gods.

    • March 12, 2016 at 4:53 am
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      @Eric
      “they are putting themselves in Jehovah’s place, setting themselves up as gods.”

      Well said! That is exactly what they have done.

      WS

      • March 12, 2016 at 6:18 am
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        WS. Putting themselves in Jehovah’s place
        setting themselves up as Gods? Isn’t that exactly what the man of lawlessness does in the Bible?

        • March 13, 2016 at 5:26 am
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          Yes, one could construe a number of prophetic fulfillments in the Watchtower’s actions – specifically those around false Christianity.

          WS

  • March 12, 2016 at 12:55 am
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    And their begging for money on TV, they just lowered themselves to the Abyss. They now look like every other Evangelical religion on TV. To think I gave 20 previous years of my life to this despicable ‘Conglomerate!’
    Oh well, so did so many.
    It saddens me to the core, to know that The Watchtower is just a money grabbing non-Christian business.

  • March 12, 2016 at 12:56 am
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    Let’s face it…….102 plus years and nothing,nothing, nothing to show for it. Nothing !!!! Hello what more do the witnesses need to wake up? It’s a corporate greedy publishing company….out to make lots and lots of $money. You have got to remain loyal to that.Without that money and loyalty you have nothing. Again….millions of witnesses now living are still being screwed and will die !!!

  • March 12, 2016 at 3:27 am
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    No question in my book. They are frantically trying to hold on to their members. It is not just a few new ones who go to an assembly public talk, it is many of the memorial attendees who go. Those who are sitting on the fence. These are the ones Watchtower wants to get. Here in the UK there was just 183 increase in average publishers last year, but 225,000 who went to the memorial. That equates to 90,000 who attend but do not support the org. They are the ones Watchtower wants to get.

  • March 12, 2016 at 3:50 am
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    I think the leadership are so insular and indoctrinated that they have no idea how a leaflet like that will impact on the general public. In reality – how many members of the general public actually come to conventions anyway? It’s just another “keep em busy” tract distribution campaign.

  • March 12, 2016 at 4:08 am
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    Nice work Covert –
    The theme of loyalty is an interesting one.
    What does it take to wake up from the cult – it needs a doubt to begin and questions that need answering, this would indicate a lack of loyalty. Unfortunately the mind control prevents many from doubting – “He who doubts …. let not that man suppose that he will receive anything from Jehovah.” (James 1:6-8).
    Too many years invested can also be a deterrent. To allow oneself to think that all those years have been wasted is just too much for some to bear. It’s like a useless insurance policy that only pays out a small sum, but because you’ve paid in for so long you refuse to put your money elsewhere.
    The thing is with Watchtower you get nothing back, except a ‘free’ funeral! C’est la vie!

    • March 12, 2016 at 5:05 am
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      @Bad Penny
      Good points! I think deep down they all have doubts – after all with such far fetched reasoning who wouldn’t? But they have been conditioned to repress those doubts. It usually takes some major event or situation to occur in order for those doubts to come to the surface. Of course psychotherapy probably could help too!

      I know that in my case, during the final part of my awakening, the doubts were starting to rise to the surface. But the final straw was when a non-Witness friend finally asked me if I was having doubts about my religion and I said “YES!” And then for the next two hours I unloaded every doubt I was having – what a good friend to sit there and listen to all that. I found that once I had verbalized the doubts it became easier to address how I really felt about them.

      The watchtower keeps the doubts repressed, never to be spoken and thus maintains control.

      WS

      • March 12, 2016 at 5:25 pm
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        Winston,

        “The watchtower keeps the doubts repressed, never to be spoken and thus maintains control”.

        You hit the nail on the head. “Never to be spoken”… that’s the powerful tool. Like you, I was given permission by my non witness friends to speak about my doubts & they listened respectfully as well which was important. That was the biggest healing for me.

        My only problem now is I feel lost at times. I cried to my sister the other day telling her that I feel like I don’t have a community or identity at the moment.

        • March 13, 2016 at 2:25 am
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          Grace, I hear you. I feel the same. I’m very grateful for the online community, buts it’s not the same as the human touch. I’ve managed to make contact with some old friends who left, and that’s been great, but for the most part I’m in a lonely place at the moment. My social circle disappeared overnight when I decided to stop attending meetings after the ARC here in oz. Even though I am not disfellowshipped the shunning and ostracism has effectively begun. The only contact I have from my friends, even those friendships going back 20+ years, is to invite me to the memorial. That’s the condition, I go back and can have my friends back. But I’m not prepared to meet those terms. I reject them wholesale. Even though I miss my friends and the many good people I knew, I would rather die lonely than go back to that cult.

          • March 13, 2016 at 5:23 am
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            The road of truth and integrity (not be confused with the watchtower’s cult usage of the terms) is a lonely one, but worthwhile.

            WS

          • March 13, 2016 at 5:55 pm
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            Winston, Grace and Eric – After three years of being out, my husband and I are still experiencing a distinct lack of friends. Nobody from our 30 years in the org has tried to contact us. Yes, when you leave you do feel alone. As you say, the ‘Survey’ helps us so much to have contact with like-minded folks from all around the world, but the human touch is missing. I want to hug you all and have you round to dinner and eat and drink and be merry! Maybe one day we can organise an ex-JW convention to go around the world and meet each other – now that would be something.
            Meanwhile we have to be strong in the face of adversity and never, never go back!

        • March 14, 2016 at 7:01 am
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          Grace I feel the same. I moved country many years ago and lost my sense of belonging. I feel the same now. I def. no longer fit in among the JW minions and I am on the outside, slowly edging in, to the ‘world’. I feel like I live in a ‘no mans land’.

          • March 14, 2016 at 5:53 pm
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            My non-jw sister who is a high ranking police officer has been my councillor & she put it aptly that after 20years, it’s like I have lived in another country, embracing the culture & religion, then moving into another only to find it hard to assimilate. She said the same thing happens to the immigrants that move in to this country, they struggle with the notion of what it means to become Australianised after having deep-rooted cultural & religious indoctrination. Especially if they’ve been brainwashed to believe the negative connotation that we’re either infidels, heathens or irreligious so therefore we’re racist.

            It always amazes me how labels conjure up different prejudices from one person to the next. Then walls go up & you have to work hard at breaking down the barriers of belief.

            We’ve done the same thing as witnesses. We have these built up prejudice against the “worldlies” using the same labels but all it manages to do is block us from letting people in & finding real friendships.

            Yesterday, I plucked up the courage & contacted a very old friend of mine pre-JW days, I haven’t told her yet that I have left the religion, it’s so hard for me as I feel foolish. I kind of ditched her when I became a JW & she knew it but she was so graceful about it at the time even though she was hurt. I felt I needed to reach out to find some friends & create a new circle. She was her usual beautiful self & was excited to here from me again after so many years. Yay! another box ticked.

  • March 12, 2016 at 9:48 am
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    here is part of a parody from a spoof site on Dr Seuss It is college humour .”All social interactions now a means to an end”(CollegeHumor)on youtube. To me it sums up all the whacky aspirations we all got duped into believing.The thing that struck me about this parody is the quote I put in here because this really does sum up all jws. If you are not part of a watertight clique, no one ,no one, wants anything to do with you unless they can get something out of you. Either your voluntary time. A constant time grab on the agenda. Even down to the social aspect . We get an invite to the bridal shower or the baby shower or the party plan when the elderette is making money, But never just to be sociable . Never because they want your company . There is always a reason.My mother would call it an ulterior motive. This is what this religion is reduced to ie do me a favour and i’ll do you one until one of us gets done! So where did they learn this callous behaviour? The boys of Brooklyn have a bumper crop of clones all like themselves. Selfish greedy always after something and now desparate. So invite to the summer convention nah! I think I will blow the bus fare on ice cream. ruthlee

  • March 12, 2016 at 10:29 am
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    The topics are puzzling. Job as an example of loyalty.
    Maybe 1 or 2 JWs are plagued with boils but not enough
    to warrant a special programme on the assembly.

    Perhaps it’s directed at the thousands of bethel workers,
    S, Pioneers and others who have been dismissed with just
    a thank you and goodbye. Such ones could well be suffering
    real hardships and feeling aggrieved.

    Then there’s Hezekiah, besieged by enemies. Could these
    enemies be the legitimate law courts and authorities who are
    now exposing and prosecuting their criminal rottenness in
    the covering up of pedophilia.

    The enemies alluded to could also include ex JWs “Apostates”
    and sites like JWsurvey, who know from experience the
    realities behind this organisation and are uncovering the dirt
    under the carpet.

  • March 12, 2016 at 11:26 am
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    I am a Master’s student researching the JW’s for my thesis.

    I enjoy reading your blog posts, as they always teach me something new about the JW’s that I didn’t know yet.

    Could you offer some more information on this part of your blog:

    ‘Remember, this invite is not designed for those who are already Jehovah’s Witnesses. This is an invite designed to be given to members of the general public.’

    From what I understood (if that’s correct) people get baptised at the Conventions. So if they do get baptised there, they have already done some significant study, I would assume. So they are not really part of the ‘ general public’. Did I misunderstand something?

    You mentioned that this is a 3 day programming. Is it only used for new members to be programmed, or does it also serve the purpose of re-programming Witnesses who have started to doubt their ‘membership’?

    Thank you very much for answering my questions!

    • March 12, 2016 at 5:07 pm
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      Julia – Hope you are enjoying your research. Don’t know if you have found this as yet but do try http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5ZZgdEm8pE. Some scary stuff to be found there.
      As to the current blog. The District Conventions are held yearly, over three days. The programme is essentially to build up the faith of current Jehovah’s Witnesses so that they can carry on their preaching work with added vigour. The baptism is held on the second morning for those who have been indoctrinated into the faith through a programme of progressive Bible Study with the ‘help’ of Watchtower publications. These new ones may have been contacted through the public preaching work, but mostly they are ones who have been born into the faith and who have reached a point when they want to get baptised. Infant baptism has always been frowned upon by Witnesses, but there is concern nowadays that the baptism candidates are getting younger.
      The distribution of Assembly invitations to the general public is encouraged each year as it is an easy way for everyone, whatever their age, to get involved in the ‘Christian ministry’ without having to get involved in conversation.
      Although thousands of invitations are given out in the months preceding the Assembly, there are very few members of the public who actually attend. The majority of Jehovah’s Witnesses attend because it is an opportunity for fellowship with other believers. It is a ‘happy time’ for most of them.
      Hope this has answered some of your questions.
      Do let us know how you get on with your thesis.

    • March 12, 2016 at 5:53 pm
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      Julia,

      The convention is primarily for current JWs, their children, and so-called “interested ones” (people who are studying with them or have witness relatives). While open to the general public, few probably attend. Each year for the JWs are instructed by headquarters to try to distribute as many invitations as possible to non JWs. The overall response is fairly poor. I think the point is that this year’s theme is even less likely to entice any non-JWs to attend.

      WS

  • March 12, 2016 at 11:27 am
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    I love wt. jw. Org

  • March 12, 2016 at 2:04 pm
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    Ding dong the witch is dead.

  • March 12, 2016 at 2:50 pm
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    Great article. It clearly shows that God is not with this cult and that watchtower problems are adding up. People are realizing what watchtower really are . This exiting for me to see the beginning of the end for watchtower.

  • March 12, 2016 at 9:39 pm
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    Thanx Tara and all for their comments. Mine were inspired by my youngest bro., the poly slax drawed right up!:)). Ever notice…the tighter the draw…and the more of a twist, the snarkier an attitude, the more priviledges given…and can they ever rat on the others for bonus points! Then at a convention after all is over and done, all head over to the biggest buffet…and loosen the …draw! :). Gotta get yer $ worth! Make sure leave your name tag on…so they know JW.orgs in town! I went once to the…”buffet”… was sooo embarassed…took my name tag off…and when asked if I was with these other people…said…No! I had on my modest boho laundry, ctn…purchased at a Thrift store…made others jealous of my style, cuz all thought I spent big spent big $ for living in a womans shelter…musta really cleaned out my abusive husbands bank acct for sure! When I proudly told them where I found my stuff, for a couple $, had a real neat ensemble incld. bts! They turned away in disgust, and shunned me like I was diseased! So I figured I would fix them, instead of going in service after…I went thrift store shoppin…Next day, dressed better than ever! Still looked down their noses at me..Hmmm,perhaps poly fab does that to a person! :)). Heh! I kinda miss those daze! Not going to conventions and mtngs anymore…kinda walk around with tight pants…and holey spanx! Little do they know…spanx is better fab if going to buffets!!!! Spread the word around, summer convs comming! Maybe mk a little note of on invite!!!! :))). Ps.! My Dear Mom, is a rebel in her own way…she may fling firewood, and drive bus at 75 to donate a tad…but she loves her spanx for her chores! I would never ask my Mom to stop going, just not “Lett” them fox her and mk her feel guilty. I love my Mom, But they watch her like hawks…so I have seen her for only part of a day and over night in the past two yrs. She lives an hr one way from the Hall, they do not check if she gets home at night, in winter or any time….but if do not put in the vowed amount…twisted and drawed right up slax will remind her…excuse me sister…we appreciate all but..Here’s the interact machine…next to the…popcorn machine…Icecream machine…all in favor…show hanz!

    • March 14, 2016 at 7:17 am
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      I went into a Sally Army thrift store a week or so back. Said store is directly opposite my old service meeting group. It was a Saturday am too! Oh I felt so naughty bah ha ha. I told my medical practitioner, a high up the chain of command SDA member, and he was floored that ‘we’ are not allowed to support charities that smack of ‘false religion’. I have been informing him over a long period of time, what goes on in the JW camp and he is in total shock. He asks me on a regular basis now if I am DF’d. I went to my Granddaughters birthday party over the weekend, taking my other grandbaby. Apart from there being a lot of screaming kids, it was fun.

  • March 14, 2016 at 8:37 am
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    The wording implies to me that they’ve directed this to current JWs. The word “Remain” means to stay that way, to keep doing something you’re already doing. I’m not loyal to their god now so I can’t “remain” being loyal to it.

    But that’s okay, I don’t feel left out. I feel relieved I’m not in that cult anymore. Been out 35 years and never stopped feeling relieved and for my two wonderful children who were spared the misery I had to suffer.

    Their conventions were pure torture to me. I hated 2 hours of meetings, let alone 3 days of the same blah blah blah, sitting in hard, uncomfortable seats trying to look interested. I’ve never been able to sleep sitting up, like in an airplane, so I could definitely never fall asleep at their conventions. I would envy those around me who managed to nod off and get some respite from the mind-numbing, soul-crushing boredom.

  • March 14, 2016 at 11:30 am
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    I know it is sad as to charity status the JW ORG. has! When I was labelled as a bad ass.:-//. for finally going to the world for help after staying with my abusive husband for 17 yrs 3 months and …ten days! They placed him in pio. status, he told of his hard life with a abusive wife…and how she held him back from serving Jehovah…and they oooed and awed…and praised him…When I attended the conv that summer…the elder who I looked up to and thought was a good guy, came when I called the try and talk my husband down so as not to kill me or my family…and after ranting and raving he would eventually …cycle of violence…he burned all the records he had of so when I told the elders in the cong. I was now in near the shelter I stayed, to ask him he knew all, he denied all…they listened to him and my husband, and I was treated riff raff…turns out my bro. married their daughter…That elder and his wife covered over and gave her a very bad time, when she broke her silence and divulged that she and her sister were abused by their brother…the Mother knew and would just buy them treats etc. so they not say…cuz her son was her fav…and he was a reg. pio., They were more concerned about how they appeared to others than with their daughters. Sad. My bro. then encouraged her to air out the laudry in public go to court…she did…they eventually got dffed, her mom and dad, funny thing when I went to a circuit ass. back home in Sk. They were the ones to run and tell the elders there keep and eye out for that…Apostate…so bros hauled me in to bck rm AGAIN!!!! So I told them a tad..Now my bro., his wife and childern are no longer claiming to be JWs,…but guess what, the parents have been reinstated….in a diff cong. Funny thing is…they would not tlk to me before or during the time they were dfed…I made the effort to…puzzled glances for certainty…My husband and him were friends so when they were asked by a CO..as to what my ex was like cuz they were advising a pio sis to marry him, lied again, very good and spiritual…they married…and well lets just say…thank goodness this sis did not waste as many of her yrs and I did…and divorced! It bothered me soo much,I lost sleep over cuz I knew what she would go thru and I wanted to tell her…but I was…bad ass. Poor gal…I guess it was hard on her and her family…I wish some day I could see her and hug her and we could just cry together….Jehovah has to set things straight one day…Everyone wants to shine like a diamond…but nobody wants to get cut! ???? Quote my daughter read to me…sooo true…Tara…Thrift store shopper! Sally Anne…oooo heaven forbid! And on a Sat.!!!!! How evil can you get! and I bit u did not even feel guilty!!! Knotty knotty!!! :)). I lived on hand outs and clothes from all kinds of other religious sponsered charities…even did a walk a thon with the Evangelic minister and his wife cuz they joined us in the walk a thon to raise money for the Aurora hse Shelter in The Pas, MB. Can.!!!! That is where I met some true friends and real caring people…and then latter the the Shelters in Wpg. MB….The kids from the cong. where I went to would tell of the goings on in their families to me…how abuse etc., was covered over by the elders…and in time..back rm again I went …I was there alot…:))). and told not to have anything to do with the kids…they would worry I would…pedophile them! Go figure…we would go in service, hid for burger king…then Value Village…have a grt old time…At times I had five teens in my lil VW..cuz all wanted to go with me cuz…supposedly I was fun! And now…pedophile?!!!! Go figure…and the real pedophiles….uh yeah…hello brother, good to see you brother…pat pat…Ok , I know I took up far too much space …sorry…love u all…

  • March 14, 2016 at 11:47 am
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    Oh I forgot…They do some charity work…ie…an older sister that pioneered for most of her adult life…a good kind lady…and we had fun times together her and I…Not the hard cut twisted poly slax kinda gal…who was my friend, and latter to the sis who married my exs.Anyways…we worked on The Reserve territory lots, She had some Native in her…and I love the humble Native folk and their disposition…anyways she studied with diff families, many poor so she would buy the kids treats and pres…mk them smile, do something nice for the moms…and …This part I hated most!!!! If was my turn to tk my car…out would come Yvonne…big ol pot full of bones she bolied etc., made a soup to dish out to hungry dogs along the way! Duh! So away we would go…pot slushin and splashin in the trunk…stop here and there…she would hop out…dig into the pot with her hands, fingernails painted red, though…dogs be happier than all get out! But gee Yvonne!!! Look at all the juice in my trunk…and now..Leaking down my windows! Uh!!!! So fun times…and yeah…Jws are charitable…well atleast some are!!! :))). Her version of cnting time…from the time she got up to the time she went to sleep!!! :))). Special and reg. pio. all her daze!!! Sadly she passed, but many :) times despite all.

    • March 14, 2016 at 7:02 pm
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      Love the bit about the dogs. I’m a sucker for animals too and lost causes. I think this is why I have always secretly dropped money into charity collections. I felt terrible just walking past them, well now I drop in a few dollars when I can. Am I trying to make up for all the years of being told not to support them? Maybe but they do more good than the Borg. I know a lot of money doesn’t go where it is supposed to but that is someone elses conscience not mine.

  • March 14, 2016 at 9:52 pm
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    If any of you would like some insight of the inner workings of wt,gb (circa decades ago) you must must read the book, Crisis of Conscience, The struggle between loyalty to God and loyalty to one’s religion. Very well written by (you know of him) former gb member, Raymond Franz. No real jw bashing at all, just really great info on what go’s on in the gb heaven on earth. Of some importance is their hard stance with jw’s in Malawi vs their soft decisions for others in Mexico (must serve 1 yr in military reserves, bribes work great to get the cert of service) (not really served)

    • March 15, 2016 at 6:58 am
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      Many of us on here have read this amazing book and if you can’t get hold of a copy it’s on PDF.

      • March 23, 2016 at 2:22 pm
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        And then of course there is Ray’s follow up book: “In Search of Christian Freedom”

        WS

  • March 15, 2016 at 1:32 pm
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    I know about the driving long hrs to the mntgs in all kinds of weather, storms etc., tired, then having to come hme fire up the old wood stove, cuz no electric, satans tool…and end soon, but go to mtng and give to pave prk lot…some times mud was so deep or snow drifts, did not know if we would mk it home and twisted pants bros. cared less, cuz they lived near by or made their hses alll comfy cozy but we were not suppose to..course we had no phone either cuz…bad, unnecessary, end soon. Dad had to wrk hrs from hme not always could mk it, so they tk him off being elder bad example, not at all mntgs…and the other elders rich farmers, once crops off…they were gone to Texas etc., travel far and wide. I best quit complaining cuz once I get going…:// so much stuff…I hate these in the Hi places…disgusting, evil, selfish, unloving…and list goes on. I do have the Bk Crisis of conscience, started rding it when I first married my 2nd husband..his father…Chris Christensen who was fighting the WT some 40 yrs or so ago in crts…any ways My husband told me about the bk…But u know how it works when you first acknowledge the fact that JW.ORG, is NOT from the True God…it is hard to let yourself get informed cuz of the engrained…Shun the Apostates kinda thing so I hid it, incase my Mom or Bros. would come and see it…Well my bros have since left, they see the hypocrisy…my Mom still in…:-//. hope one day…But when I went to read it…I hid it sooo well!!!! I could not even find it! :((. But the other day…viola! Found it so…not sure where my husband got it …I will ask him and post where. :))

  • March 16, 2016 at 8:40 am
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    Like Julia I completed my Master’s degree by researching into the Witnesses, as well as using my past experience. I agree with Covert that it is the second proposition that is behind the convention, namely one of retention. As with their brochure ‘Return to Jehovah’, it is an all-out effort to win back those who have left who still perhaps have family members in the organisation. However, there is still an appeal to those in other (Christian) religions who admire the zeal of the Witnesses and are possibly attracted to their slick approach. Not everyone is as informed as the contributors to JW survey and it is ignorance that is the underlying success story behind the Watchtower.

  • March 22, 2016 at 8:00 am
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    “Bored to tears”, is the best way to describe this assembly torture. However, it could be a lot worse. How many remember the eight day “Divine Will” international convention in New York City in 1958? It was from July 27 to August 3 at Yankee Stadium and the Polo Grounds. That’s right; eight days Sunday to Sunday with a morning session, field service, and back again for lunch and the afternoon sessions from about 2 pm to 9 pm with a dinner break. With nuclear destruction imminent along with the “short time” remaining of the scarlet colored wild beast it was felt then that Armageddon’s arrival was near at hand. I was 6 years old at the time and clearly remember sitting and sweating in the sun in the outfield bleachers which were rough and splintering.

    Ah yes; the good old days, yeah right. My last assembly was in 2013 the “God’s Word is Truth” District Convention. The last talk on Friday afternoon entitled “Believe Inspired Truth not Inspired Error” had me hooked. Now the real truth about their New Light and how wrong they had been would finally be revealed or so I mistakenly thought. Same old stuff–except now I was considered a “tool of the Devil” because I resolved to get a higher education in order to better my family’s quality of life. An education which unfortunately, I missed out on in the 1970’s! Alas my education came too late in life as the recession hit not long after thus sending new construction and land development into a tail spin. However, I managed to take away one bit of knowledge from my college experience; I learned how to do objective research.

    Now with the passing of both my parents and their generation fading fast I realize how thoroughly duped we all were by these doom’s day, the world is an evil place, God will destroy them all, Bible thumpers. As I look back fondly to what my parent’s tried to accomplish I realize that the most important thing they failed to inculcate was an appreciation for higher worldly knowledge which, brings its own rewards.

    Soon, the conventions will be held in smaller venues as the baby boomers like me, pass from this scene. Many of the children of baby boomers have already left the fold, never to return; why, because there is no future in working for a greedy, manipulative, autocracy pro gratis. As time passes and more light is shined upon this crooked organization the seven doctors of deceit will find that none of their quackery (treatments) will stop the hemorrhaging within their anemic, terminal patent. May they and this twisted Adventist evangelical cult become just a footnote in history like the “Great Disappointment of 1844”.

  • March 23, 2016 at 2:40 am
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    There needs to be more court cases against the JW.Org to drain their funds. It is clear that this organisation is a business organisation, so dry up their funds and the business will close

    • March 23, 2016 at 11:37 am
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      I’m with you Freedom.

      Between the child molestation cover-ups and their constantly begging for money, soon someone is going to put a spot light on the world H.Q. in New York.

      Just let a congressional hearing be called on them and watch the unfaithful and indiscreet slave run for cover. I would love to have something like this televised like other hearings in the past. It would make for great T.V. as did the Watergate hearings back in the mid-seventy’s. If a president can be brought down and be forced to resign why can’t a business oriented religious cult?

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        I would stay up all night to watch it been televised with my satisfaction metre running high.

  • March 24, 2016 at 9:34 pm
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    And it does not matter if they change anything Because what is so important what they do any how, who the hell cares.If they go outta business who the hell cares? If they need more money who the hell cares? I go by what Ray Franz said on national tv and to repeat what he said and keep in mind he was on that governing body for 9 years. “AND TODAY I SAY THAT I AM ASHAMED AT WHAT I WAS INVOLVED IN” That’s good enough for me. If Ray said it then its like God saying it.

  • May 23, 2016 at 10:21 am
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    You are all sad and pathetic. The information given on this page is grossly in error. You have no understanding of truth because you fight it. You have no concept of what is taking place because you are out of the loop of proper information. You are hopelessly lost in your own disdain for Jehovah because you’ve rebelled against him. You site will come back to haunt you & you will wish you had never been born, and it will, in fact, be as though you never were. Even the original church had problems, and Jehovah never promises things will be perfect, and you’ve missed the sale of the Brooklyn property for several billion dollars. Jehovah is in good control, and has made changes in staffing because of technology and needs, and for allowing for more Kingdom Halls to be repaired and built, so funds have been re-allocated.

    You all are so pathetically lost in this system of things and in the blindness Satan has imposed on you that it is ridiculously sad. You’re the ones who fell asleep at conventions because you had no spiritual interest, or were bored because “you’ve heard it all before” but does the print in the bible change every day? No! Yet we should be reading it every day. Is your memory so perfect that once you hear a truth it never needs to be repeated? There’s no human alive with that capability.

    I’m saddened every time I see these sites.

    • June 24, 2016 at 3:50 pm
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      How can you say ” you will wish you’ve never been born?” That is a terrible and extremely judgemental comment for which you will also be judged.
      God is our master judge and knows and sees all.
      We do not serve man but rather God!
      I have discovered over the journey of my life that we absolutely do need to listen to God’s instruction, and that their are consequences for wrong choices. The most important relationship is with God through prayer and service. This service can be shown in many ways such as teaching others about God’s mercy and grace among so many qualities we also need to reflect, by being good Stewarts of what we are given through materialistic and basic needs, taking care of one another and most importantly- giving God 100% of your faith.
      It isn’t through rules given by an organization that have no source in the Bible unless manipulated. God is love, we are to love….period. If you beat your sheep , they will fLee; but if you guide them lovingly, they will trust you and be with you faithfully.
      I’m not saying we shouldn’t be disiplined, I am not saying we don’t need rules….please don’t misunderstand! I have do much more to say…but for now I am done.

  • May 24, 2016 at 2:01 pm
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    Weird my mum is a strict jw …. wont go into long story but brought up as one by parnets dad went off with another jw wife … my mum and bro remaind i always been respectful of all what thy do but chose not to follow at 15 yrs onwards … back to my main reason …. my mum avoids and lays the law down so much about birthdays and xmas to family and all around her …. my twins were 5 the otherday i had a party at home …. she turned up said she hadnt realised but stayed and stayed in same room when happy birthday was sung …m. im still in shock !!!!! Any explanations ???
    To her this is ultimate evil and sinning …?? Im glad she did stay even though not to take part but she stayed she in the past would leave the room or leave completely !!!

  • July 7, 2016 at 1:22 pm
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    I would say it was geared to stop the out flow like trying to stop a sive from draining. I faded 21 years ago after moving across state. I had been irregular in my old congregation do to depression. When I moved the new congregation was slow to warm up and when I approached an Elder to ask for help in service he snapped and I do mean snapped that my service time was between me and Jehovah. I thought, you know what, you are right. This is between me and Jehovah. I thanked him turned on my heel and left the hall never to return. The main reason I am writing is in connection to the 2016 convention and from what I am seeing the theme seems to be about shunning those who have faded as apostates. I wanted to bring the following to your attention. 18 U.S.C. 2340-2340A. Especially article 5 about cruel treatment of humans and their rights. Taking or rather breaking families apart and in some cases causing suicides. This could very well fall under that category. If you will look on change.Org there is a petition listed to encourage an investigation of Watchtower Bible and tract society to determine whether or not their policy of shunning can be deemed a violation of basic human rights and called an act of cruelty.

  • July 10, 2016 at 8:03 pm
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    Appears that you are getting your facts from someone other than Jehovah’s Witnesses. Why not attend a meeting and then write your article. Do some investigative journalism instead of speculating what you think may be happening.

  • July 12, 2016 at 11:40 am
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    40 years, yes. 40 years and then one winter night I came to this conclusion: God, I can feel your are getting far away from me or I am getting far away from you. Maybe you do not want me, but I want you. So, even if you do not want me I want you.

    Then a miracle happened. God told me he loved me and proved it to me. Do to serious circumstances in my life I was watching Television from a Christian cannel.
    I went to give my little daughter to the Sunday school and thought if she could go I could wait and go the Sunday service so long to wait for her.

    Well, you will say; you should not have done so and you are right. If you give your life to JW, don`t go to a Christian church because, Jesus are out to save you.

    So, right there on the floor he also saved me. He baptised me in the holy spirit and this is now 25 years ago and I just feel as it was yesterday. Can you imagine? 25 years as yesterday? So, after that; my life went 100% around and gave me everything “he” had promised.

    Do I miss JW? No, I must say; I do not. To day I have Jesus all the time and getting more and more every day.

    The sect explanations of “everything” is not true. Jesus alone is true. So, if you have Jesus you have everything. I still have family who belongs to JW, and it has consequences to me, but I cannot give up Jesus.

    I will give this testimony: Isaiah 43:18 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25_iVstSG6M

    My God, I worship you with everything I have and I love you with all my heart. Once you meet Jesus you are not the same person after. I do not want to be another person than I am now with Jesus my saviour. I love you.

    To all former JW; come with me to visit Jesus and be saved. I encourage everybody to come you will never regret it. I rejoice.

  • August 19, 2016 at 3:48 pm
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    I have to admit, being all powerful can be taxing at times. Still, as your God JeHOBO I must reflect on the last century. I was a good run. Many of my sheep, aka lambs…have fogotten about why they are here. You are here to spread the TRUTH about JEHOBO! What does that mean? Well it means that everything and I mean EVERYTHING is SATAN or derived from Satan. Don’t believe me? Well Satan certainly has control of YOU then doesn’t he!

    JEHOBO GOD HAS SPOKEN!

  • August 19, 2016 at 4:01 pm
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    I have to admit, the web is really hurting recruitment. This is why we will soon be granting Kingdom Hall access and Jehobo Witness congregation membership to all dogs that are domesticated and have not sinned… ! Why you say? BECAUSE I AM JEHOBO GOD. Also, because my dog is really cool, yes I have a dog here in heaven. I promise to all faithful believers that you will live forever on a paradise Earth with my perfect dog servant! My faithful and discreet dog!

    JeHOBO commands it!

  • November 13, 2016 at 7:25 pm
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    THIS WEBSITE IS FULL OF LIES. THERE ARE OVER 9000000 JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES AND MANY MORE GETTING BAPTIZED YEARLY. EVEN MORE PEOPLE ARE ACCEPTING BIBLE STUDIES AND ARE ATTENDING MEETINGS AND CHANGING THEIR LIVES. JW.ORG IS WHERE YOU SHOULD GO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES. THEY ARE NOT HURTING FOR MONEY OF ANY KIND. THEY ARE NOT IN DEBT FOR ANY REASON OR ANYTHING. THEY JUST FINISHED BUILDING A NEW BETHEL BUILDING ON NEW LAND THAT IS WAY BETTER THAN WHERE THEY WERE ALTHOUGH WHERE THEY WERE WAS GREAT. THIS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE IF THEY WERE IN DEBT. THERE ARE WOLVES OUT HERE AND ALL THEY SEE IS BLOOD. PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO RUN WEBSITES LIKE THIS SHOULD BE ASHAMED AND TREMBLING BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE GOD’S ENEMY. WHY ARE YOU NOT STARTING A WEBSITE TO SPEAK AGAINST CHILD PORNOGRAPHY, OR CHILD ABUSE, OR ABORTION, OR WARS THAT KILL INNOCENT PEOPLE OR CHILD SEX TRAFFICKING OR CHILD LABOR, OR CHILD BRIDES? THE LIST GOES ON. PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE PEOPLE WHO FEED ON PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW THE TRUTH WHO HAVE BEEN OUSTED BECAUSE OF THEIR POOR JUDGEMENT AND NOW YOUR PRIVILEGE COULDN’T WIN YOUR WAY WITH JEHOVAH SO NOW YOU ARE LIKE SATAN SEEKING TO DEVOUR SOMEONE BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN BEAT AND PRONOUNCED NOT BECAUSE THERE WAS AN INJUSTICE DONE AGAINST YOU. IF THIS IS YOUR LIFE, THEN YOU ARE PATHETIC AND MISERABLE. BUT, I BET THIS COMMENT WOULD NOT BE RESPECTED. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE REMOVED.

  • November 13, 2016 at 7:30 pm
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    JEHOVAH’S WITNESSES ARE IN NEARLY 300 LANDS AND DO YOU THINK THAT THERE IS AN INDICATION THAT THEY ARE SLOWING UP. YOU PEOPLE NEED TO READ AND KEEP UP WITH THINGS FOR YOURSELF AND STOP FINDING AN EASY CUSHION FOR YOU TO FALL BACK ON. THE END IS NEAR. YOU BETTER BELIEVE IT WHILE YOU ARE SITTING UP COMPLAINING AND PLAYING GAMES WITH YOUR OWN LIFE, LETTING THE BLIND LEAD YOUR BLIND SELVES.

    • November 14, 2016 at 4:12 am
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      @YOUR OPPOSER, I for one am not disfellowshiped but I have not disassociated myself so that I don’t get disfellowshiped but the only reason I don’t disassociate myself is so that I don’t get disfellowshiped and not be able to talk to my children who are still Witnesses but I’d like to comment on your comment. If you can point out any lies that have been said on this website, can you please point them out? Can you point out even one, so that we can address them to see if they are really lies or not?

      If you point out any of the lies on this website and if you can prove that God is backing the Watchtower Society, I will gladly go back to the meetings but I want you to answer some questions for me.

      How do you feel when the Watchtower Society says they have “restored” God’s name Jehovah back into the Bible 7,0000 times when they freely admit that Jehovah was an invention of a Catholic Monk (February 1, 1980 Watchtower page 11) in the 1200’s A.D.? If the Society “restored” God’s name, it would be YHVH. Do you ever tell anybody that Jehovah’s Witnesses “restored” God’s name into the Bible as Jehovah? If you do, you are spreading a lie and the Watchtower Society knows they are lying about that and they are using innocent people such as yourself for taking credit for “restoring” God’s name Jehovah when that name was never in the Bible. How do you like being “used” to spread that lie?

      How do you like supporting an organization that will disfellowship you if you even dare to come onto a website such as this one which is supposedly an “apostate” website? If the Watchtower is truly is backed by God and is the “truth”, it shouldn’t be afraid of websites such as this one because “truth” will stand up to lies. That is why it is so important that you point out any lies that are supposedly being brought up here.

      I suspect that you already know this or you would not be afraid to use your real name. If I was a Catholic and I was standing up for the Catholic Church and I was going onto a website that was bashing the Catholic Church, I’d be PROUD TO USE MY REAL NAME. Are you AFRAID to use your real name? Nobody should be AFRAID to use their real name to defend their religion but you are afraid to defend your religion. Why are you afraid to use your name? Please come back here and use your real name. You know you can’t because you know that if you do that, that the Society will know you have gone onto an “apostate” website and you can be disfellowshiped for even looking at anything that might make question the validity of the Watchtower Society. If you really have the “truth”, you should be able to prove it but you can’t, can you and that is why the Society will disfellowship you for going onto a website that calls into question any of the teachings of the Watchtower Society and will convince you that you are going against God when you question the Watchtower Society.

      If they are really the “truth” they would not be afraid for you to go onto a supposed “apostate” website.

      Another question I have for you is this: Do you spread the lie that Jesus died on a stake and not the cross and do you use your “Reasoning from the Scriptures” book with the topic of the cross and use the reference in that article in the Reasoning book where the Society supposedly quotes from the Imperial Bible Dictionary where the Imperial Bible Dictionary supposedly said that Jesus died on the cross?

      If you do, then you are spreading a lie because I happen to have an original copy of that Dictionary from the very year that they use in the Reasoning book and the Society put a period at the middle of a sentence where that Dictionary went on to say that by the time that Jesus would have been killed by the Romans, the Romans were using a cross piece to kill people and the Bible even says that Thomas asked to see the holes in his hands where the “nails” were, indicating that there was more than one nail, indicating that Jesus died on a cross (John 20:25 NWT). How can you go from door to door, defending an organization that deliberately lies and is using people like you who are not going to get a copy of a 150 year old dictionary to prove that they are lying about what that dictionary really said?

      How can you tell people that God promised a paradise earth when there is no such scripture in the Bible?

      That is the biggest lie and you are being used to spread that lie. I know what I am talking about because I spread that lie for 50 years and I believed it too but if you can show me even one scripture from the Bible that God promised a paradise earth and if you can prove that God is backing the Organization, I will gladly go back to meetings.

      I will be so grateful to you if you can prove me wrong so that I don’t go to the grave believing that I spent the great majority of my life spreading lies from the Watchtower and instead, I could have been enjoying my life to the full and not having had to spend so much time forcing myself to go to all those boring meetings and forcing myself to spread lies in field service.

      Please do that for all of us here. Point out any lies.

      • November 14, 2016 at 8:32 am
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        Well done Caroline. I would also like to know Opposer’s views on the UN, the child abuse, blood….. oh you know, all those major things.

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