News Bulletin: California Appellate Court Slams Watchtower, Jehovah’s Witnesses Fined, Ordered To Produce Child Abuse Docs

“Watchtower has abused the discovery process. It has zealously advocated its position and lost multiple times. Yet, it cavalierly refuses to acknowledge the consequences of these losses and the validity of the court’s orders requiring it to produce documents…And, in a further act of defiance, Watchtower informed the court that it would not comply with the March 25, 2016 order requiring it to produce documents…”

So stated the California Fourth Court of Appeal in a decision where the Watchtower organization has been held responsible for refusal to hand over its database of child abuse files, specifically those it has been collecting since March of 2001. The court penalized Watchtower in the amount of $4,000 per day, a fine which has been accruing over a year, and which may surpass two million dollars.

This is in addition to significant legal fees paid by Watchtower to Morris Polich & Purdy, the California firm retained for their defense. The November 9th ruling further stipulates that Watchtower must pay the legal costs incurred as a result of their appeal, a hefty price to pay for their adamant refusal to turn over child abuse files.

The Case

Abuse victim Osbaldo Padron filed suit against the Watchtower Organization following the discovery that Congregation elders in the Playa Pacifica Spanish Congregation, along with Watchtower officials in New York, had known for more than a decade that Gonzalo Campos had molested multiple boys. Neither the police nor child protective services were contacted by church elders, or by Watchtower. Instead, Campos was elevated from congregant, to Ministerial Servant, and finally to Elder by June of 1993.

Gonzalo Campos

Gonzalo Campos admits crimes during deposition

Not long after Campos’ appointment, Padron was molested at just 7-8 years of age.Details of multiple counts of abuse by Campos and additional victims were documented by JW Survey in July 2013.

In 2011, Campos admitted on camera to allegations of pedophilia, but has since fled to Mexico and is presumed to be an active Jehovah’s Witness. The congregation elders who protected Campos, along with the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society are being held responsible for the willful neglect which led to the sexual abuse of multiple victims.

While some victims have already settled with Watchtower in private, undisclosed agreements, two victims of Campos opted to file civil lawsuits in an attempt to hold the Jehovah’s Witness organization accountable both financially and legally. The two victims are Jose Lopez and Osbaldo Padron.

Jose Lopez filed a civil suit in February of 2013, in which attorney Irwin Zalkin and his team obtained subpoenas for documents related to Watchtower’s knowledge of the prevalence of childhood sexual abuse within its organization. Additionally, Zalkin obtained an order to depose Governing Body Member Gerrit Losch as the Person Most Qualified (PMQ) to testify for Watchtower.

Watchtower refused to cooperate, failing to produce the requested documents in full, and Losch denied that he had any connection to Watchtower. In 2001, Watchtower removed Governing Body members from their New York and Pennsylvania corporations to insulate them from legal responsibility. The Superior Court of the State of California did not find this tactic amusing, and issued a default judgment for Lopez, awarding him 13.5 million dollars.

Watchtower’s Costly Mistake

Watchtower appealed the Lopez verdict and argued that the terminating judgment was unfair, that it did not give them a chance to defend their position. The court agreed that lesser sanctions should have been tried first in an attempt to pry loose those documents. Watchtower eventually released four years’ worth of heavily redacted files, from March 1997 to March 2001.

Why only four years?

Watchtower made a costly and damaging decision when it released a letter to all congregations dated March 14, 1997, in which congregation elders were advised to submit reports on all “former”  or “known” child molesters who had relocated from a different congregation.

Congregations were instructed to allow all elders access to information regarding child molesters, while also forwarding details to Watchtower Headquarters inside a “special blue envelope.” Elders were instructed not to discuss this information with any congregation member.

This official edict from Watchtower provides the legal starting point for the document discovery process, despite the fact that Jehovah’s Witnesses had been collecting child abuse and other sensitive documents at headquarters for decades.

Faced with the choice of compliance or writing a check for 13.2 million dollars, Watchtower released those documents, but redacted them excessively, and stopped with March 2001. This was the year that the Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses (CCJW) was formed. Watchtower’s legal team argues that once CCJW was formed, they no longer had access to or control over child abuse documents.

Osbaldo Padron

Meanwhile, victim Osbaldo Padron filed suit against Watchtower in September of 2013. Among the allegations were negligence; negligent supervision/failure to warn; negligent hiring/retention; negligent failure to warn, train, or educate; sexual battery; and sexual harassment.

Watchtower officials and multiple congregation elders had significant knowledge that Gonzalo Campos was a sexual predator, yet did nothing to protect Osbaldo Padron, the congregation, or the local community.

As with Lopez, Padron demanded that Watchtower release all of it’s child abuse documentation from March 1997 forward. Watchtower refused to comply, arguing 1st amendment protection, clergy-penitent privilege, and attorney-client privilege as a basis for non-compliance.

Senior Watchtower Service Department official Richard Ashe declared that Padron’s request for these documents was unreasonable, and that it would take a full time worker at headquarters up to 28 years to search through the files of over 14,400 congregations, and retrieve the abuse cases demanded by the plaintiff. The court rejected Watchtower’s arguments, including the attempt to disclose only documents from the state of California.

As mentioned earlier, Watchtower released redacted documents from the period of March 1997 to March 2001. Watchtower continued to maintain that it had no obligation to produce documents after March 2001, claiming that Watchtower and CCJW are separate entities.

The court appointed discovery referee disagreed, describing Watchtower and CCJW as “alter egos.” The court agreed with the referee, and issued an order dated March 25th 2016, demanding complete document release by Watchtower.

Watchtower refused.

The legal battle continued, with the court ultimately deciding that sanctions against Watchtower were both justified and necessary. The court stated:

“In this case, there is a clear failure to comply with a discovery order
on the part of Watchtower. First, Watchtower failed to properly
comply with the court’s March 13, 2015 [order] and produced
documents with excessive redactions. After the court adopted the
Discovery Referee’s Recommendation as an order, Watchtower has
unequivocally stated it will not comply. By the time of the hearing
on the motion for sanctions, it will have been over a year since the
initial order and almost three months since the Recommendation was
adopted. In the period since the Recommendation was adopted,
Watchtower has shown no effort or willingness to comply with the
discovery order.
“Based upon the history in this case and Watchtower’s statements at
the April 8, 2016 [hearing], the court finds that Watchtower’s failure
to comply is willful. Watchtower argues that its failure is not willful
because it has no control over CCJW documents. However,
Watchtower clearly has control over the documents it has already
produced and could revise the redactions with regard to those
documents. This is obviously and clearly within the scope of
Watchtower’s powers which it chooses not to exercise. Continuing
to repeat its prior unsuccessful arguments in opposition to the
discovery order further illustrates Watchtower’s obstinacy in
compliance. Further, based upon the unambiguous statements made
by Watchtower’s counsel, there is no reasonable dispute that
Watchtower is simply refusing even to attempt to comply with the
court’s order.”

With this declaration, the court decided to punish Watchtower in the following manner:

The court therefore sanctioned Watchtower $2,000 per day for every day Watchtower did not produce responsive documents and $2,000 per day for every day Watchtower did not search for responsive documents.

This fine was deemed fair and just in consideration of the court’s awareness of more than 1.3 billion dollars worth of real estate owned by the Watchtower organization.

Estoppel Traps Watchtower

Not surprisingly, Watchtower strongly objected to being fined $4,000 per day for failure to produce documents related to child abuse. Unfortunately this objection violated the legal principle known as estoppel. According to the court:

“Judicial estoppel precludes a party from gaining an advantage by taking one position, and then seeking a second advantage by taking an incompatible position.The doctrine’s dual goals are to maintain the integrity of the judicial system and to protect parties from opponents’ unfair strategies.”

The court explained further how Watchtower violated this legal principle:

“Here, we find all the elements of judicial estoppel present. Watchtower has taken two positions. In Lopez, supra, 266 Cal.App.4th 566, it argued monetary sanctions, untethered to the plaintiff’s reasonable costs, were appropriate. In the instant matter, Watchtower now claims the superior court was not authorized to issue such sanctions. Watchtower has taken these contrary positions in two separate cases before this court.”

The reality of the situation is that Watchtower’s attorneys were boxed in due to the $13.2 million dollar judgment in the Lopez case, and felt they had no other recourse but to claim that the court should have fined them a lesser penalty. But when they were assessed this lesser penalty in the Padron case, they strongly objected. The patience of California’s justice system had run thin, as the court finally declared:

“Here, it is beyond debate that Watchtower has abused the litigation process and has shown little respect for the superior court’s authority.”

Reaffirming that the financial penalties imposed by the Superior Court of California were justifiable, the court declared:

“Nonetheless, Watchtower refuses to comply with the court order and maintains the court was just wrong. In this sense, it refuses to acknowledge the authority of the court and repudiates the procedures and rules all litigants are supposed to follow in superior court. In these extreme circumstances, we
conclude the superior court was authorized to issue the monetary sanctions”

It is clear that the California appellate court was well aware of Watchtower’s intentional obfuscation when it blurred the lines between the Watchtower Organization and the Christian Congregation of Jehovah’s Witnesses (CCJW). The attempt to claim that Watchtower had no access or control of documents possessed by CCJW was an attempt to mislead the court.

“The representations of Watchtower’s counsel as well as the declarations of Watchtower agents clearly indicate that Watchtower has access to responsive documents from 1997 to present. We thus conclude substantial evidence supports the discovery referee’s finding, adopted by the court, that Watchtower was in “custody and control” of responsive documents beyond the March 2001 creation of CCJW.”

Watchtower Versus Watchtower

Further substantiating the legal gamesmanship taking place in an attempt to circumvent justice and mislead the court, Watchtower sent a letter to its alter ego, CCJW,  in a measure feigning compliance with the document production order of March 25th 2016.

The first letter, dated July 2nd 2016 was sent from Watchtower’s California law firm, Morris, Polich & Purdy, to Anthony P. La Rocco, attorney for CCJW:


July 2, 2016 Letter from Watchtower Attorneys to CCJW

July 2, 2016 Letter from Watchtower Attorneys to CCJW


This letter was followed by a reply from the firm representing CCJW, in which Watchtower’s California counsel was informed that CCJW was not a party to the Padron Case and had no obligation or duty to respond to the document production order:


July 11th 2016 Letter from CCJW to Watchtower

July 11th 2016 Letter from CCJW to Watchtower


Once again, the court was not tricked by these tactics, and called attention to Watchtower’s inconsistent stance:

“We find it curious that the existence of CCJW and the March 2001 cut off only became an issue after Watchtower produced documents and Padron complained that the production was not sufficient. It appears Watchtower argued that it had access to the documents after March 2001 when it was to its benefit to support its burden argument, but only after losing that argument, it claimed to not have access to documents after a certain point of time to justify its limited production. Such gamesmanship has no place in civil discovery. “

In other words – Watchtower originally claimed that it was excessively burdensome to search ALL their documents from 1997 to the present, revealing that they did indeed have possession of these documents. They then attempted an alternate strategy by declaring that they did NOT have access to these documents, and that CCJW could not legally produce them.

Judgment Day

As a result of the proceedings outlined above, the Fourth Appellate District Court of Appeal has affirmed the lower court’s ruling that the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of New York, Inc. is responsible for the payment of the $4,000 per day fine assessed back in 2016, along with all costs associated with this appeal.

The court concluded its judgment by stating:

“On the record before us, we are satisfied that the superior court’s order was not arbitrary, capricious, or whimsical. To the contrary, the superior court has shown great patience and flexibility in dealing with a recalcitrant litigant who refuses to follow valid orders and merely reiterates losing arguments. We therefore affirm.” [bold ours]

The judgment was entered November 9th 2017. Watchtower has 40 days to file a petition for review with the California Supreme Court. Jose Lopez and Osbaldo Padron continue their civil cases against Watchtower in the Superior Court of California, County of San Diego.


Read the complete appellate court judgment  here








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31 Responses to News Bulletin: California Appellate Court Slams Watchtower, Jehovah’s Witnesses Fined, Ordered To Produce Child Abuse Docs

  1. Chiafade says:

    I may have missed something. Does this mean that watchtower merely gets to pay the fine and walk away? If so this was a monumental waste of time. No production of the requested documents means that an organization with enough money can stick their middle finger up at the courts and get away with it. I hope I’m just misunderstanding all of this. It is past midnight here.

    • ready_4_to_fade says:

      That would make absolutely no sense. I highly doubt that is the case. I’m sure this fine is in addition to producing the documents, since the fine amount would be determined by the day when they are finally produced.

      • nullandvoidboy says:

        They pay the fine, up to this point. They pay all legal fee’s, up to this point. They have to hand over all requested documents past 2001 and not with heavily redacted passages. They continue to pay additional fines until they comply….hopefully it gets to the point of arresting gb member Losch, who “isn’t” affiliated with WT….that’s a hoot…for a charge of contempt….everything about this borg reminds me of the loving actions of jesus

    • messenger says:


      I read over the appellate court’s decision yesterday afternoon. WT’s argument (claim) was that WT should not have to pay the fine-4k a day. That’s what the appellate court was deciding. The court was considering whether the issuing judge in the other court made the proper legal decision in fining WT 4k a day for not cooperating by turning over its docs. The appellate court said the decision was proper. That means WT not only has to pay those fines that accumulate and already have accumulated on a daily basis, but WT must continue to respond to the plaintiff’s original complaint, including all court orders, including the order to pay 4k a day until it looks for and turns over the docs, divided 2k+2k, or 2k for either failure (looking & turning over).

      This court order included that WT must turn over those docs. That still stands for it was not the center issue of WT’s motion, the fine was. I’m not going back to reread the appellate court’s decision, and I have not read JR’s comments above yet, but if I remember correctly the appellate court confirmed that should WT continue to refuse to turn over the discovery docs the presiding superior court judge (of the original court) could issue a terminating sanction, the most severe of all sanctions. That’s the type of sanction that was previously issued against WT in a San Diego Case involving Campos, where the judge refused to continue to hear WT’s side of the case argument and ordered it to pay 13.5 million to the plaintiff. That order was later overturned in favor of this type of lesser sanction first, in an attempt to force compliance with court orders, prior to issuing the more severe terminating sanction.

      I do remember for sure that the Court’s decision here referred to the possibility of terminating sanctions that could be issued in cases such as this, where a party refuses to turn over discovery docs after it is ordered to by court (as in this case). I just cannot remember if the decision suggested that as a remedy in this particular situation if WT continues to refuse. But this decision referred to terminating sanctions issued for noncompliance to court orders to turn over discovery documents several times in its decision. The court also listed a lot of stare decisis cases that uphold the legality of it’s decisions regarding its comments concerning terminating sanctions for noncompliance with discovery court orders as well as other aspects of this decision.

      The long and the short of it is WT is screwed. WT’s legal arguments to defend itself so far in this case are not legal, rather merely wishful thinking or fantasy. WT lawyers were not proficient in handling this case. This one case has cost WT millions so far (see Lloyd’s ticker) and it’s not even half over.

      “Stare decisis is a Latin phrase that means “to stand by that which is decided.”. When a court makes a decision, it establishes a legal precedent that is used by subsequent courts in their deliberations.” web quote

  2. Sarah says:

    Both this and the latest debacle in Ireland demonstrate Watchtower’s disregard for the authorities. They act against their own rules: Romans 13:1-4: ‘the existing authorities stand placed in their positions by God. Therefore he who opposes the authority has taken a stand against the arrangement of God; those who have taken a stand against it will receive judgment to themselves.’

  3. Linda says:

    An alcoholic must first admit they have a problem and be honest about it before they can recover and heal. The JW org is doing the opposite and lying to both their members and the public. The Governing Body has brought great reproach upon God’s name, the name they claim to honor! After watching the entirety of the Australian Royal Commission and in particular Geoffrey Jackson lying at least 12 times and getting caught by the judge himself and told to stop lying, it was a major wake up call to many Jehovah’s Witnesses that they will lie, and it is not “theocratic warfare” they are using but lying directly to the government to cover up this massive child abuse scandal. How many JW Broadcastings have they had covering this massive scandal? Zero. You know why? They rather lie about it and call it “apostate lies” than to admit they have a problem. Reducing magazines, cutting everything to the bone, selling property around the world while claiming they need more money to build new Kingdom Halls is vile and disgusting.

    How do they scam their members? “Jehovah needs more money!”

    I know a lot of people will disagree with me about this but I believe that Russia’s ruling against them is the right thing. This is a cult – NOT a religion. They masquerade as a religion so they can get their tax exempt status approved and the status of being a religion which is protected status in many countries, but they are a cult. The evidence is overwhelming.

    I also think this is another calculated move by the WTBS to hide their guilt but I believe it will backfire on them. Paying $4k per day amounts to only $1.5 million per year. That’s nothing compared to what they rake in from their faithful members like my grandmother from Tennessee who writes them weekly checks of $200 while she eats cat food to survive.

    They are guilty and there is no way out for them.

    • sirius says:

      >>>”After watching the entirety of the Australian Royal Commission and in particular Geoffrey Jackson lying at least 12 times and getting caught by the judge himself and told to stop lying,”

      Reads like another so call religion using justifiable lies. In the other, it’s permitted to lie to non-believers by the use of the tongue and not the heart. More so when one is in great fear!



    • chantal says:

      Linda, I too watched almost all of the ARC proceedings, most of them live.Led to my final break with WT. Unless one has watched them, it is impossible to see the scope of lying, cover up, deceit, cultish behaviour, etc. I tried in vain to show this to a few close “sisters”. I was met with shock at my behaviour, shunning, and told to “wait for Jehovah” to make it right. I finally after two years told one of them, Jehovah has nothing to do with these criminals, so there is nothing to wait for him to do. Yes, they have taken God’s name without his consent and brought reproach upon it. I am so sorry your mother is so ensnared in their evil cluthches

    • messenger says:

      4k a day might not hurt WT. But if WT starts to receive and continues to get hit with terminating sanctions at about 10 mill a pop, along with loosing some class action suits at tens of millions a pop, those figures might add up to quite a smack to the buttock of WT. It’s quite possible that WT stands to lose between 100-200 million due to it’s child protection policies.

      This court order includes info claiming WT owns about 1.3 billion (1,300 million) dollars worth of real property assets. I also saw its stock portfolio once-millions of dollars there also, unless that’s been sold by now which is very unlikely. So, I think you are correct. Let’s say WT looses 300 million behind this stuff. According to court docks WT could still own outright 1000 million dollars worth of real property plus potential stocks worth millions. Money is not WT’s short suit.

  4. Excellent article. It is an outrageous show of dishonesty that the Watchtower flaunts at the Courts—AND to the victims of abuse and denial of any form of justice.

  5. Morris says:

    I stumped a couple of elders the other day about the blood issue. Yes, the Bible does mention to abstain from blood but it was in the context of eating/draining. So, I asked these elders and showed then the pic of how we (yes I am a JW) show whole blood is not allowed, red, white, etc … are not allowed but fractions of each are allowed. I said we can all agree based on the pic that fractions come from whole blood – but where does this whole blood come from? It’s not synthetic and JW don’t donate blood so it comes from worldly people. Don’t use science to justify why fractions are not whole blood anymore, etc … Just change the doctrine to make it a matter of conscience as to whether or not to take blood. This will never change since they painted (and continue) to paint themselves in a corner but point fingers at everyone else when back peddling is needed.

    Very very sad all around and many are blind and can’t think for themselves. If all the GB go to jail the rank and file will rejoice and say God is cleansing his organization and continue as though nothing ever happened.

    Many can see the writing on the wall ~ well, I can plus all I talk with. A resolution was read in Sept about the 14 dollar per publisher donation needed for various emergency items, etc … but yet the God’s Rule book states the following. Never an answer. It went like this … (or send out letters ~ see below).

    “It Will Never Beg nor Petition Men for Support”

    7, 8. Why do Jehovah’s people not beg or petition others for money?
    7 Brother Russell and his associates refused to imitate the money-raising schemes so common in the churches of Christendom. In the second issue of the Watch Tower, under the heading “Do You Want ‘Zion’s Watch Tower’?” Russell stated: “‘Zion’s Watch Tower’ has, we believe, JEHOVAH for its backer, and while this is the case it will never beg nor petition men for support. When He who says: ‘All the gold and silver of the mountains are mine,’ fails to provide necessary funds, we will understand it to be time to suspend the publication.” (Hag. 2:7-9) Over 130 years later, The Watchtower and the organization that publishes it are still going strong!

    8 Jehovah’s people do not beg for money. They do not pass collection plates or send out letters of solicitation. Neither do they use bingo, bazaars, or raffles to raise money. They hold to what the Watch Tower long ago said: “We have never considered it proper to solicit money for the Lord’s cause, after the common custom . . . It is our judgment that money raised by the various begging devices in the name of our Lord is offensive, unacceptable to him, and does not bring his blessing either upon the givers or the work accomplished.”*

    • Ricardo says:

      I made a comment at the meeting about that.I said: Since I was young I understood that Jehovah owns everything, and like Bro Russell said, Jehovah will use what he has to support true worship. Like Bro Russell said, good people will support something they see as good. So I was very disappointed to see Steven Lett of the governing body asking for money the other month.

      Straight away 3 or 4 elders put up their hands and made comments supporting Rubber Face’s outrageous behaviour. What a bunch of brainless zombies.

    • outandabout says:

      Hi Morris…..this JW blood issue……Leviticus also says not to eat fat. You can bet WT would like to ring Rutherfords neck for his stupidity. Watchtower have themselves in a jam with the blood issue as well as the child abuse issue. They cannot change their stance on the blood because they risk being sued by furious families which not only could cost them dearly but would publicly shine another spotlight on them. So it looks as if the JW’s can continue to have bread, they can continue to have butter, they can continue to have jam, but they aren’t allowed a jam sandwich (referring to blood fractions) They can also continue to die in order to save the Watchtower money.

      Nice Cult you have there, Brothers and Sisters.

      • Morris says:

        off topic but my thinking. Blood = Life.

        John 15:13
        No one has love greater than this, that someone should surrender his life in behalf of his friends.

        Lev 17:11
        For the life of the flesh is in the blood

        For the life of every sort of flesh is its blood, because the life is in it

        • outandabout says:

          True, Morris……life is in blood, but not only blood. In ancient times blood would have been viewed as sacred because it was noticed that if blood was lost, you died, and it is very easy to lose blood and die. The effect is immediate and noticeable, hence ‘blood is sacred’. If say a person in ancient times contracted a deadly liver disease and died as a consequence, there is no way those people of old could have known what killed that person, but, if they did happen to know a diseased liver could cause death, it would also be ‘livers are sacred’ and ‘though shalt not take liver’, or kidney or any other organ.
          This ancient blood edict is borne of mans ignorance at the time, not enlightenment.

  6. Free Thinker says:

    To me, this entire sad affair demonstrates once again the truthfulness of applying the statement in Romans 2,24 “God’s name is blasphemed among the Gentiles BECAUSE OF YOU” to “God’s own and only organization”. The JW.Org herself has made her own “JEHOVAH”-trademark (which she “proudly bears” by pushing and shoving it down people’s throats, accompanied by making lots of noise and clamor) A STENCH, so much that people turn away in utter repugnance and disgust whenever & wherever the J-Wort flies.

    Once just needs to briefly taste the vocabulary used in the media with regard to this latest of JW.Org’s sneaky ruses, dirty tricks and outrageous stratagems of “theocratic warfare” to get nauseated:

    – Obfuscation
    – Abuse
    – Refusal to acknowledge
    – Refusal to comply
    – Acts of defiance
    – EGREGIOUS (!) behavior

    Is this how “Giving a good witness” which the org demands of her rank & file without letup looks like??? “You who are teaching others – do you teach yourself?”

    This is utterly dishonorable and shameful to the ultimate degree, to say the least. It has become evident even to the last remaining blockhead on this planet that the JW.Org has nothing – NOTHING – to do with such lofty things as moral rectitude, decency, goodness, ethical behavior … that’s simply not her nature, not in her genes. She is a mercilessly Machiavellian entity, ruthlessly set upon pushing, pursuing and enforcing her own manmade, egocentric, egomaniac and self-serving agenda at all costs. This has NOTHING to do with God, Jesus Christ, with the Bible nor with Christianity. It is what the NT calls the “wisdom that does not come down from heaven but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic” (Jms 3,15).

    We already knew about the org’s true nature before, but this current MESS, this new JW.Org- descent to new lows of cunning and sneakiness lifts the notion of her hypocrisy, her slyness and wiliness to new heights. It is simply disgusting.

    • Shibboleth says:

      As taken from the court documents, We can add another vocabulary word to the list above to describe…

      Recalcitrant…adj. – having an obstinately uncooperative attitude toward authority or discipline.

      According to the New Oxford American Dictionary


  7. Doc Obvious says:

    A religion that thinks its above the law. At least now, the legal system is getting the same type of treatment from Watchtower that it imposes on its members. Now there are lawyers that are seeing the “real” Watchtower.

    My advice is to put liens on all Watchtower’s properties. In this way, when Watchtower tries to sell their properties, they will receive no money from the sell.

  8. Fangoffenrir says:

    Maybe I haven’t looked hard enough, but Is there anyway links could be provided to any and all court docs so that I can back up this article to my heavily indoctrinated family with as much official evidence as possible? Thank you guys for this article btw. Keep up the good fight

    • John Redwood says:


      Thanks for your support and nice comment! For the court document from last week’s ruling, just scroll up to the top of the article and click on the hyperlink where it says “the November 9th ruling” – or you can go to the bottom of the article and I have it posted there as well. If you have any difficulty locating this, just email us at


  9. Whip It says:

    Interesting, i have a close friend who has just finished a 5 day elders school, so will quizz him on the latest on child abuse, one would have to say that it would have been discussed at some point, & will be interesting to see what was said.

  10. barry says:

    Bravo! Thank you for your work. As always look forward to more.

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